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12:00:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JP: magical, Bill & Lynn Twist, Belen, all those who have gone on trips, interconnected, breathing air that comes from these trees, water we drink sourced/connected to sacred waters of Amazon, Lungs/heart of Earth, Ashua's dream is manifesting>>>many others are dreaming with and is happening, turmoil on Earth being shaken up, told us we'd enter time of Xtreme crises to awaken to taken actions, changing the dream of the modern world, Putin & Xi will meet this week, people know and the message from the rainforest is truly global, grateful to BT, LT, BP, all partners,
12:03:07 From Karen Sadler to Everyone:
Thank you Belen for being the voice with government, big business, to stand with and for the original peoples of the land.
12:03:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
BP: indigenous in Ecuador is important force to reach President, bring him to press society to make changes, asking for specific things, regarding oil Xtraction, Xternal debt, open to negotiations with indigeous groups, in future more and more communications to transitional pathways, different model of economics, including indigenous peoples, government must communicate, in Quito with indigenous speaking of the entire Ecuador society>>>HOPE indigenous have wisdom, dreams of permanent protection (How will this be enforced?)
12:05:01 From Kevin he/him Canada to Host and Panelists:
What changes do we anticipate between Indigenous nations and the new King?
12:05:07 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
BT: will not need outsiders working with/guide it>>>New structure to manage their territory, possibility for indigenous to protect their sacred headwaters for themselves and all people of the Wesern Amazon of Ecuador & Peru
12:05:47 From carol O'CONNELL to Everyone:
This work has been empowered by the Spirits the people of Amazonia communicate with. Ir is astounding that the work has become Globally visible and viable.
12:08:37 From Kevin he/him Canada to Host and Panelists:
Are we at a time of the 8th fire? As spoken by the anishinaabe?
12:10:11 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: more Belen story please? in Quito, studying at University in Ecuador, northern Amazon in Ecuador studying was inspired at age 24, into lagoon, …(?) Bello Lagoon, dol[hins, sensation that something was trying to reach her, yes, we will commit to protecting each other mystical moment>>>no doubts of role in protecting forest, know more about self, with indigenous people>>>Organic way to work>>>relations/friendships with indigenous people, d>>>easy to learn from them, help with heart guidance to work in action, beautiful learning process, ceremonial chants, listening to spirits of the forest to face challenges, destruction of forest, context that helps do the work in the Amazon, BT: Belen younger was a trained opera singer, sometimes in forest will sing (Yaya, creative Xpressions etheral audio that transports people) golddust out of the heavens upon BP gifted by nature, affirming/natural
12:10:12 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Beautiful!! I love the image of you with gold dust coming from the forest to embrace you, Belen!
12:11:59 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Kevin he/him Canada, Host and Panelists:
Kevin - send to “Everyone” if you want all to see your comments.
12:13:16 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Everyone:
With Love...
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12:13:42 From Prashant Amara to Everyone:
a kind sharing..
https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/webinar/wandering-winding-way
With Bayo Akomolafe, Sophie Strand, Tyson Yunkaporta, and Vanessa Andreotti
12:13:48 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
What I'm hearing is the balance brought to the indigenous people like thay were committed to share with us.
12:14:13 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thanks Stan, I know you'll post that link again before the session closes.
12:14:15 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
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12:14:32 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: How has this changed the Amazon tribes of Ecuador/Peru caught up in encroachment desacrating their habitat while being empowered across borders to protect their places? BP: growing as a collective, no one could have anticipated this evolution in the face of these challenges destroying their rights/lands/territories/ collective intelligence powerful leaders attending lgobal conferences, in local governments, in front lines, letting government know equity/balance need for natural resources, developed intelligen first acto in Amazon basin, respecte, people want to understand their dreams/culture/wisdom of healing /people want to Xperience shamanic healings, no longer separate, now a plitical actor for all the world/humanity JG: not lost their roots while participating in modern governance, rare sought after commodity around the world,
12:15:38 From Prashant Amara to Everyone:
The Wandering, Winding Way of the Wound
or the Politics of Cure, the Shadows of Harm Reduction, and Transgressive Networks of Care at World End
12:16:05 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Bless you and so grateful to you Belen/all… sound/soul healing intimacy of momma heart felt memorable, deeply inspiring... new dream of he(art) as music making resonance. Grateful. Honor to see/be with you here.
12:17:06 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Thomas LeGrand, author of Politics of Being: Peace, Love, Earth.
12:17:24 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Love this discussion, I feel this so much, too and so appreciate the Indigenous really doing this work!
12:17:50 From Karen Sadler to Everyone:
Yes, John, we need more people to stop removing the trees in their neighborhoods, without planting another tree instead of what they are doing…placing cement for bigger driveways and larger patios…
12:17:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
BT: Now more certain their world view is an animated place with spirits everywhere the problem is that the rest of the world does not see/speak, Indigenous go to COP around the world improving in translating to other peopl, amazes how quickly they learned the internet/tech/computers, still maintain not apart from nature and can still use tech without Xploiting, still committed to longerm thinking, biz is all about shortterm thinking, not just human children, but all future life forms in Earth take care for the long term, same tech that we create optimizing consumerism Indigenous use to protect the longterm, amazing teachers to JP, use modern tech to enhance the longterm!!!
12:19:20 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Global climate groups are also doing alot of work within indigenous rights and social awareness work. Extinction Rebellion, for example…
12:19:20 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
The Territory is a National Geographic film of the Amazons destruction and efforts to save the LUNGS OF THE EARTH. https://films.nationalgeographic.com/the-territory.
For ways to solve the issues facing Societies see the documentary ‘Time of the Sixth Sun', https://timeofthesixthsunlaunch.com/access#row-159
12:19:42 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Sounds like the same money they are throwing at the destruction of democracy, et al.
12:21:28 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Transitional Governance will include pre-colonial democratic processes and youth in leadership programs like Neighborocracy
12:22:07 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Love that - a new paradigm re: economy related to the forests - YES
12:22:08 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG to BP: contrasting Brazil to Ecuador, from Sacred Headwaters tribes more responsive governments of are oil companies putting increasing pressure on indigenous people? BP: mining/oil pressuring to maintain society about the benfits of Xtraction not changing and is Xpanding into diverse areas, YET Ministers of Environment/ Secretaries of cliamte change, conservation within government undrstand what is needed, targets to shift economy from destruction to new posssibilities, bio economy/reforestation/regneration projects, economic transitional pathways, Amazon 9 countries no other way than permanent protection for Amazon, geovernments will have income from the forest with a plan to do this, bring this trength to local govs collaborate for possible economy to protect LIVING FORESTS, no need for more minig/oil development in these territories
12:22:24 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Youth in leadership that’s a working parallel with a global council of Watershed Grandmothers.
12:22:39 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily)
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12:23:33 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Nimby
12:23:45 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JP: We are the ones using the oil (Flying is a big carbon polluter) How do we pay with carbon offsets? higher income coountries this is a problem we created, do not want to pollute our coutnries in the north and so head south in someone else's backyard-CLEAN UP MINING SECTOR FOR A NEW DREAM!
12:26:04 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
check out the UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION FOR HOLISTIC DESIGN, HTTPS://UFHD.CA
12:26:49 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Circle Economies, Circle Cities, Biomimicry? Could educational systems be eco-tourism creating off-site eco-educational curricula? Like Minerva University going to cities instead of having a campus. Could universities collaborate with Panchamama Foundation - increasing Environmental Courses as demanded by students?
12:27:12 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Thanks Kurt!
12:28:22 From Vivian Hood to Host and Panelists:
Appreciate the solidarity
12:28:29 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you so so much!! Hopping off for a work meeting, will miss the afterchat 🙁 Hugs all!
12:28:30 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Everyone:
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12:28:31 From jiyun park to Everyone:
For example, in New Hampshire, could Dartmouth have a group study with Panchamama Foundation?
12:28:37 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Jiyun, great idea - that's kinda what Ubiquity University is, being online and in-person, and a collaboration with Pachamama seems in the wings!
12:28:49 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
PLEASE CME TO THE AFTERCHAT. 🙂 TYG
12:28:55 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
BT: build foundation for ecological civilization, pay for human/nature's preservation do not rely on oi;/mining/Xtractive industries>>>PROGRESS around the world are creating new ways to restore life with main orientation is to restore/regnerate life in Earth, much flexibility, create new financing mechanisms, put $ into circulation, sacred headwaters>>>WHAT IS OUR COLLECTIVE DREAM FOR ABUNDANCE VALUING THE RIGHTS OF NATURE? Nature having legal rights 2007/8 Constitution in Ecuador, accelerated a movement around the world, indigenous needed to understand that laws were allowing white people to use legal system to Xtract from their territories, tomorrow Natalie Green:& Cormack Collin(?) wild law, rights of nature in discussion, 12-14 years status in world, informative conversation, Gold dusting us all to be better humans in the lives of Earth
12:29:04 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Yes!!!!so grateful to be part of Pachamama!!
12:29:23 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Yes very inspirational! and miraculous - AGREE!
12:29:44 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Everyone:
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12:29:47 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Abundant gratitudes, gold dusting you infinitely!
12:29:47 From jiyun park to Everyone:
YES, scaling this NOW NEW DREAM asap? Thanks so much, golden luminous dust on!
12:30:08 From Mo Stevens to Everyone:
Thanks