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Back to: HR!Day968 - Mon 7/22/24 Human Development: A Narrative for Our Times - Cindy Wigglesworth & Marie Murtagh

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Quick recap
The team engaged in a series of discussions on various topics including the United States' celebrity culture, the concept of 'flowing up', and the importance of creativity and play in addressing complex issues like the housing crisis. They also explored the relevance of toroidal geometry, the shift in communication, and the role of mothers in bridging religious and scientific communities. Lastly, they discussed the vision of equitable childcare, the concept of helpfulness, and the potential benefits of death for individuals living in poor conditions.
Next steps
• Stanley to share link to Eleanor Ostrom's work on managing commons resources
• Sarah to connect Christine with her husband Robin regarding real estate opportunities in Washington
• Christine to research Erica K. Webster's intentional community project in Raymond, Washington
• Stanley to share information on Fix Democracy First talk show focused on Washington state politics
• Christine to explore digital equity initiatives for her community
• Sarah to provide Christine with information on Earth Stock event and drumming activities
• Christine to consider participating in Earth Stock virtual event or drumming activities
• Stanley to confirm and communicate the end date for Humanity Rising episodes before August break
• Christine to follow up with Stanley regarding Philadelphia community organization efforts
• Sarah to share information on OnPassive email service with the group
• Christine to connect with her son at Microsoft regarding cybersecurity discussions
• Stanley to share recording access and chat logs from this meeting with participants
Summary
Celebrity Culture, Flowing Up, and Evolution
Shannon led a discussion on the United States' celebrity culture, with Marie and Cindy sharing their perspectives based on their international experiences. Jiyun introduced the concept of 'flowing up', which sparked a dialogue about its potential for solving problems and its relationship to human evolution and the spiral dynamics model. Nish, a math and physics expert, proposed that aligning with the cosmic process of evolution through a 'flowing up' mindset could be beneficial for human development. The group agreed on the importance of authenticity and safety in future discussions.
Addressing Housing Crisis and Creativity
Jiyun highlighted the significance of creativity, play, and the inner child, while also expressing concern about the housing crisis and its implications for the economy and politics. Cindy underscored the complexity of the issue and the necessity of collective, interactive, and emergent solutions. She pointed out that addressing the root causes of homelessness would require examining interconnected systems. Shannon stressed the importance of looking at situations from multiple perspectives to find solutions, while Marie shared her experience of shifting her mindset in 2020. Nish discussed the concept of spiral dynamics and its relevance to decision-making, emphasizing the need to consider a broader perspective of reality for more sustainable solutions.
Toroidal Geometry and Communication Shifts
Jiyun presented a concept based on toroidal geometry and its relevance to various aspects of human life, including ancient deities, the apple, and subtle bodies. He also critiqued the current quadrant system, arguing it was limiting human consciousness. Marie emphasized the importance of interpreting data points to create patterns and make breakthroughs, while Shannon cautioned against discarding the map for the territory. Stanley discussed the shift from traditional television to new forms of communication, highlighting the need for diverse perspectives in discussions about issues like military spending. Shannon expressed frustration about the repetitive nature of news broadcasts, calling for more varied and meaningful content.
Sparkling Conversations" and Transformative Love
The community welcomed Kristine and discussed plans for "sparkling conversations" during the August break. Shannon appreciated members' contributions and shared her enjoyment of playing Scrabble. Kurt highlighted the transformative power of love and networking for planetary transformation. Kristine shared her background and focus on child well-being and reaching her highest potential through play. The conversation ended with an invitation to join fun activities and a reminder about Katherine Alexander's "Birds of a Feather" program, which uses birds as personality type metaphors.
Mothers, Soil Health, and Earthing Discussion
Kristine, diana, and Sarah discussed the importance of soil health, the concept of earthing, and the role of mothers in bridging the gap between religious and scientific communities. Kristine shared her role in community development and her desire to create a space for mothers to have a seat at the table with economists, accountants, and scientists. Sarah suggested that Kristine could gather a group of mothers to advise the city council, a concept inspired by a book by Richard. The discussion also touched on the loss of connection with the earth due to modern footwear and the potential benefits of using leather soles.
Discussing Equity, Cooperation, and Resource Sharing
Stanley introduced Nobel laureate Eleanor Ostrom and her principles for creating strong group identity and fair distribution of costs and benefits. diana expressed her concerns about the current political climate and emphasized the importance of cooperation and productive dialogue. The group discussed the need for equity and the sharing of resources, with Kristine sharing her experiences as an international diplomat and her plans to attend an upcoming forum in Norway. The conversation ended with Sarah posing a question.
Equitable Childcare and Local Development
Kristine discussed her vision of equitable childcare, which involves ensuring every child has access to quality care, regardless of location or circumstances. She proposed the symbolic idea of "planting a tree for every child" to represent this commitment. Sarah shared her views on the natural roles of men and women in parenting based on their ionic charges. They also discussed Sarah's property in South Bend, Washington, and a local resident named Adam Abraham who has developed a water system. Additionally, they talked about the potential benefits of attracting good doctors to the area for economic development.
Support, Resources, and Local Work Importance
Kristine shared her low feelings, and Sarah offered support by providing contact details for herself and her husband, mentioning she lived in Belize. Stanley shared resources with Kristine, including a book by a law firm about rich white men's influence on the US government, videos and papers on social network analysis, and information on Ellen Brown's public banking movement, which Kristine was familiar with. The group discussed various topics like carbon movement, local work's importance, and Eleanor Ostrom's work's relevance. Stanley mentioned his efforts to build a communications organization in Philadelphia to connect community groups. Kristine emphasized the need for decision-makers to share problem-solving strategies. The group agreed to study Ostrom's work and consider implementing her ideas locally. Stanley informed Kristine about his website wikidelphia.org, increased activity on networks like indexing "Humanity Rising" episodes, and a speaker search tool for the show. He also mentioned a political talk show.
Community Plans, OnPassive, and Talk Show
Sarah asked Kristine for her phone number and email address, which Kristine provided. Kristine also recommended a private email service called OnPassive that doesn't track user data. Sarah mentioned Erica K. Webster's plans to create an intentional community on her property in Raymond, and Kristine offered to help Sarah understand local regulations related to that project. Kristine discussed attending her niece's outdoor wedding in Maine over the weekend. Stanley brought up the talk show "Fixed Democracy First" hosted by a dynamic woman in Washington state. Kristine also shared that she serves as a precinct officer in her local community.
Age of Helpfulness and Personal Journeys
The team engaged in a wide-ranging discussion centered around the concept of helpfulness and its potential to foster unity. Stanley advocated for an 'age of helpfulness', while Sarah raised a question about the potential benefits of death for individuals living in poor conditions. Tricia introduced the 'most perfect love' foundation, which could be beneficial for Kristine's work with two tribes. Kristine shared her personal journey of discovering and embracing her Native American heritage, and Sarah offered to connect Kristine with her husband. The conversation ended with discussions on personal anecdotes, future plans, and the importance of digital equity, with the group agreeing to continue their communication.
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