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11:02:39 From Joan Tryba to Everyone:
could we also honor the indigenous land where we all reside, greetings from Luiseno unceded land
11:11:10 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Maybe what is more in line with creating the future is being fully "human" not being fully "men". Men & Women seems to be part of the past paradigm of separation rather than interconnected.
11:12:17 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes, little white leather tie shoes that had to be polished white regularly.
11:13:08 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Hello for Day 403 The moonshot for men's health.
11:13:24 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Sounds like we were young in the same years with x-ray machines to determine the right size for our feet.
11:16:51 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Richard Buckley(Direct Message):
Thank you!
11:19:00 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:21:44 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
Natural Law.
11:22:20 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Speaking of my health, as a man, my wife and family are key to keeping me healthy. But I'm interested to hear what will be said today.
11:22:38 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
I don't fully understand it, but apparently newer science suggests viruses are a way for DNA to communicate horizontally.
11:24:37 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Why do men die sooner... could it have anything to do with men's passion for guns and war?
11:24:44 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
As the mother and grandmother of men, I am interested in how to support them in being healthy mentally physically, emotionally and spiritually.
11:24:48 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Love you guys! Thank you. So grateful you are all tackling this pivotal issue —not least how men, too, have also been betrayed by the disconnect of patriarchy…
11:26:11 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Jeran - is there a source for that? Very interesting.
11:28:09 From George Cappannelli to Host and Panelists:
Not to worry Richard. I combined my version that got screwed up with your.
11:28:17 From Joan Tryba to Everyone:
Men are disposable in the eyes of society.
11:28:33 From Joan Tryba to Everyone:
And BIPOC men, are even more disposable
11:28:54 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
"We know how to do this." the lethality of the attempts have something to do with that suicide rate.
11:31:26 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Interestingly, tomorrow's Humanity Rising is about farmer suicide in India...
11:36:12 From Robin Geller to Everyone:
I say, I/we are with y o u.
How can I help, as an identified female, <ETC> . .
11:37:40 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
How to count the men who have been killed in war over centuries?….and today still
11:38:32 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Women live longer because their bodies are engineered to support two people. Thus more “durable”.
11:39:51 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
The Toy Theory of Western History (.pdf) The Toy Theory of Western History
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::http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/essays/v3p367y1977-78.pdf::
11:41:25 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Charles - having children is an automatic ‘connection’ men are separated from that….
11:44:39 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Women are designed to create life. Many men seem quite comfortable with taking away life.
11:48:01 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Is it not ‘simply’ the power and control issue, in political…particularly now with White Supremacy and the loss of identity they are fighting for?
11:48:26 From Candy Leonard to Everyone:
Authoritarianism is the last gasp of patriarchy
11:49:47 From Marcia Raff to Everyone:
Segregating gender is yesterday. Today some people identify as both male and female.
11:50:41 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
In the UK particularly, ACES resulting from boys being abandoned to public schools…see, the current PM in Westminster!
11:51:06 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I agree that militarism and the associated assumed “disposability” of troops is a factor. Remember that every US male must register for the obsolete “selective” service system. Adulation of war-makers permeates most professional sports (geared towards men), and recruiters must be allowed access to high schools. Then there’s promotion of football—adulation of aggression that is known to wreck bodies and brains. How stupid is this?
11:51:31 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
It takes a village: men and women... ::https://breakingthecyclefilm.org/::
6-minute video illustrates our capacity for breaking our current Cycle of Competitive Detachment and returning to the pattern of 95% of our human history: a healthy, peaceful Cycle of Cooperative Companionship. Breaking the Cycle is based on the multi-award-winning book, Neurobiology and the Development of Human Morality: Evolution, Culture and Wisdom, by Darcia Narvaez, PhD. Resources: ::https://breakingthecyclefilm.org/what-next%3F::
11:52:00 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Candy - this is an interesting book ::https://othernetworks.org/Bob_Altemeyer_%E2%80%93_The_Authoritarians::
11:55:45 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
Kathryn, I read about it in Sayer Ji's book Regenerate, but I've heard it talked about by several people.
11:55:50 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Boot camp is a form of initiation into the cult of Mars. Recruits are forced to accept their own brutalization prior to brutalizing others.
11:57:02 From Emmanuel Smith Kuleh to Everyone:
Thanks to everyone for having me here today. Am Emmanuel Smith Kuleh from Liberia
11:57:51 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
...or women talk to another person.
11:58:04 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
TY, Mary!
11:58:10 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I'm not an eater or shopper.
11:58:15 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Jeran - thank you!
11:58:30 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Love to you Emmanuel, from here in Woodstock NY
11:58:57 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
We held a PEACE conference that specifically around the " war" between the sexes. that was a refaming of the politcal structure and using trauma informed. As an Ojibwe Women I think our coming of age ceremonies can assist in healing the male and female. We already see how this makes adiffernce.
11:59:04 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Wounding and being proud of that wounding!
11:59:18 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Separate / disconnected / against another
11:59:41 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Interconnected / for / inclusive
12:00:47 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Shannon Crossbar - yes honoring transitions helps people find their place - we have lot that…
12:00:57 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Yes, Shannon, we held a coming of age ceremony for our son and his best buddy that they both hold as foundational, now over 20 years later.
12:01:00 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
MOONshot….as an integration of the feminine principle ? —
12:01:09 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Fun Moon play!
12:01:18 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Jed, are you proposing this happen in 10 years as we did in the 60's?
12:01:30 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Very appropriate for the lunar new year!
12:01:50 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Thanks so much for this important conversation and for your dedication to your own healing and helping other men in their process of healing.
12:02:58 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
God bess Robert Bly — RIP
12:05:06 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Whole body shivers every time I hear this poem.
12:05:16 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Wow that is powerful!!!
12:05:42 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
Chii MIigwetch.
12:06:44 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Recognizes the interconnectedness of us all.
12:07:21 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Sorry, guys, some of us women do feel like prey to male predators. When will men take more of a lead to end sexual violence?
12:08:27 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
My man is totally my ally!
Thank you, Pascal.
That's a major reason why we are together.
12:08:57 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Amy, TY!
12:10:12 From Larissa Chuprina to Everyone:
In Ukrainian culture and language, it is interesting to see the connection between drinking culture and connection to self, companionship with other men, and higher purpose. The name for (moonshine is "self-purified" and an ancient toast among Ukrainian men is "Let us be! /bud'mo/ - on 3 levels of personal connection to self as beings and existing in the world as a nation. In our culture, which is originally matriarchal, there is no animosity between men and women. Unfortunately, now life expectancy for Ukraianian men is about 50 years. Larissa
12:11:01 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Sam Keen, in those days, used to say, “the trouble with men is that when we open our flies, our brains fall out”\
12:11:06 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Larissa’s - Western influence?
12:11:59 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Re-generate men!
12:12:09 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Men need to ask for help and not try to do this all alone...
12:12:26 From Robin Geller to Everyone:
I consider that the felt criticism by the other was understandable ?“contempt”.
12:16:09 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I'm so sorry I had my boys circumsized after having a partner who was not.
12:16:28 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
WE reject sex instead of accepting sex. That rejection distorts such a strong need.
12:18:51 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes, I've lived a life of that whole cycle your speak about, Jed.
12:19:19 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:21:33 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
I SO love that George! Reclaiming the good.
12:24:31 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
And we women cannot dodge ALL responsibilities — amazing how many women can still play the game, still wear ‘CFM’s’ — 7” stiletto heels as one example
12:24:34 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Why do we think that surviving pain makes us stronger? We dismiss the need for care as weakness.
12:24:37 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
The tone of the communication can open doors for men and women.
12:25:54 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
I humbly references to two things I wrote awhile ago. One is a chapter in a book about Violence in Intimate Relationships, titled “Dating Violence As A Social Phenomenon” ::https://www.academia.edu/31138438/Dating_Violence_as_a_Social_Phenomenon:: The other is titled “Archetypal Energies and the Four Faces of Romantic Relationships” ::https://www.academia.edu/7518823/Archetypal_Energies_and_The_Four_Faces_of_Romantic_Relationships::. The later was about what we all seem to be looking for in male-female relationships and the first is about when things go awry. I hope they are helpful.
12:25:56 From Anahata Pomeroy to Host and Panelists:
Another reason not to have wars where men go off together.
12:26:24 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Understanding the pain our former president went through
12:26:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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12:27:10 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Thank you, Cuf.
12:27:19 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
What changes would the culture have to have to include, not just men.
12:27:26 From Larissa Chuprina to Everyone:
I love men and their sexual energy.
12:27:56 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Marianne Williamson as a keynote speaker in a woman's conference many years had many women walk out of her talk where she addressed the role of women raising these boys into the war culture of domination and destruction
12:28:40 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Especially she was addressing the way women are emotionally and mentally violent with each other
12:28:42 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes, Maureen, we are all part of this.
12:29:15 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
Please forgive my typing. I was trying to type fast.
12:29:55 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:
Beautiful conversation on healing both genders towards a balanced world. Thank you Jim, Jed and George. Love and Light to all.
12:30:11 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL.
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily), AnotherU,
OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
www.SuccessSystemsInternational.net
‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela
12:30:50 From Robin Geller to Everyone:
Articulation of such acknowledgement/accountability processes, yes, with and through the, ie, ‘non communication’ . .
12:31:00 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
The Hunger Project in 1977 stood for the end starvation on the planet by the end of the century. The World Bank now declares that by 2030
12:31:21 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Thank you all for holding this conversation! I so appreciate your wonderful hearts!
12:31:32 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
How do we on act you?
12:31:51 From Anahata Pomeroy to Host and Panelists:
Count me in.
12:32:02 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Mary - did that date take into account the changing planet???
12:32:06 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
Sorry how do we contact the project?
12:32:39 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
@Kathryn, not sure what you mean.
12:33:10 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Ending starvation by 2030..
12:33:57 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I don't know how the World Bank deternubed that but they have been in this conversation at their core.
12:34:28 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
What beautiful role models you all are for this new way of being a male in our world.
12:34:45 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I think they call it the end of extreme starvation by 2030.
12:34:45 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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12:35:58 From Deborah Lincoln to Everyone:
As the mother of a young man I really appreciate you having this conversation. Consciousness is key to everything.
12:36:05 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
Shocking news of Indian farmers!
12:36:05 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Evermore thanks
12:36:09 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you so much!!
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