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Humanity Rising Day 257 Chat Page   –   Thursday May 27, 2021

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 257

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Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)

Mental Health front and centre!! Thank goodness for that!! Health, happiness and helpfulness to all xxxxx

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Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)

Namaste from India

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)

Bless you for being here and being part of the Great Solution humanity needs. We Are One, and  I’m sure  glad about that. Please remember to add Attendees in this chatbox so we can all see what you say.   Blessings from Canada.

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:18 AM)

Why are there so many new diseases? Chemical pollution? What preventions must be implemented?

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)

Great question Kurt. My take? The human mind is very creative in expressing its distress…

David Somekh to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)

Its partly that we're getting smarter in recognising conditions that previously, because they were very rare, weren't recognised

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)

why are we focusing on treating diseases instead of causes- food, lifestyle, high density living, pollution, etc.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)

sorry  to hear. Thank you for saying, Vytenis. Hard truths…

Dinesh, that is one perspective that is very important. This is another. It’s important too. imho

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

How do we get the powers that be to look to stimulate the immune system ~ FOCUS on Prevention…

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

So much info to be stuffed into the time available.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

agreeing Dinesh, no money to make in addressing health through this perspective.

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

here in India Cipla is selling Monoclonal antibody cocktail to treat covid at $1000, that most people can't afford!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

here you have it Dinesh!!

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

Yay!

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)

when are alternative health medicines will finally be able to voice their results without being censored

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)

never if big pharma doesn't make money on it

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)

never say never ;)  !!

aho!!

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)

I know Dinesh. In India, homoeopaths are having very good results with covid if taken early. all censored anyway..

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)

thank YOU!!

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)

thank you!

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:26 AM)

Passionate!! Great!! thank you

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:26 AM)

yes and Ayurveda

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)

there has been a hype in India on Remdesivir that made people panic but it is a BS medicine for covid as it is mutagenic drug creating more variants

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)

we are giving herbs to farm laborers covid positive and seeing recovery in 7-10 days.

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

It's a catch-22 situation.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

That's amazing Dinesh!!

Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

Stan, would you email me your cell and mailing address please?  So glad that the after chat gives us the opportunity to discuss HUMANITY RISING ideas. Thanks fro the patterns of biology this morning.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

so glad to hear Dinesh that people are not buying into the panic

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)

in India they panic people with Kent variant and in the UK they panic people with indian variant :)))

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:30 AM)

the administration doesn't allow inclusion of herbs to patients without being approved by a committee. a long process to petition

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:33 AM)

Aspidosperma and Justicia Adhatoda are very good herbs if one gets to the suffocating stage but before getting there a good homoepath can treat easily before getting to the critical stages. ob viously more tricky for people having their immune system challenged by chronic diseases

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)

thank you

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)

It's insane Vytenis, and bureaucracy in Europe has always been an issue.

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)

is health fear of public seen as political power?

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)

no the problem in European commission is collusion, corruption and lobbying...

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)

Building the infrastructure of programs and communities to have the resources they need for wellbeing, and beyond.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)

our finiancial systems were collapsing in sept 2019 so  pandemic is a good disguise!!!

Johann François-Bongarçon to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)

Yes Ma Dadey, this is a problem of criminality and of justice. Not of health.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)

This shift to well-being is exactly what is needed to align with the regeneration of the planet. If we care about well-being we will also begin to recognize the connection between a healthy environment on human health - duh.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)

thanks Bogi & Lars for addressing the teens.

They have the capacity to understand and  longevity to enable ongoing change!

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)

indian government is under considerable pressure to implement more lockdowns!!! it is shocking as population is suffering so much as not having social support.... the government is between a rock and a hard place.

yes Johann.... health ID, digital ID...nobody wants it !!!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)

“enforcement” NO… encouragement and peer pressure

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:42 AM)

we Zoom into the future in our present!!

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)

"One Health"

Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:44 AM)

You can join the "AfterChat" Zoom Meeting here:

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Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)

The destruction of artisanal agriculture is a crime!

Johann François-Bongarçon to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)

Who invited these people?

I am very disappointed in Humanity Rising on this subject.

Have a lovely day of corruption, dear panelists.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

I am European and I know from fact that no European wants this health passport, vaccine passport. in England they say they are going to have  vaccine passport as Europe is putting it in place.. nothing is democratic In these decisions

Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:47 AM)

What is the greatest risk factor for global health? I would suggest that it is the global weapons industry. It can wipe out a vast number of people in one day.

Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)

industrial food production, gmo, etc.

corruption

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)

Johann, leaving doesn’t allow your POV to be heard. Too  bad…

that’s what the AfterChat is for - be heard and hear what others believe. Very important venue!

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)

So sad that, in the end, it comes down to economics and not life.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)

what about European union buying millions of pounds of remdesivir when the WHO had said 2 days earlier it was ineffective for covid, who got some money in their pocket??? that's what we wnant to know!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)

Both  are important, imho Kathryn, we cannot create the world we want without taking both into account.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

The driver makes a huge difference in the kinds of solutions that show our and are chosen. No one is denying the importance of each but our long history of economics first is why we are where we are.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

aho.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

time for a change of focus.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)

Yes we need to make that shift. One would think that the fear of dying would have some importance but losing money trumps it every time..

Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)

It’s all eyes on vaccines as the world rushes to immunize their populations against COVID-19 and protect people from the ongoing pandemic. But who is being left behind?

  Without global action, people in lower and middle income countries will wait YEARS to receive a life-saving Coronavirus vaccine. This is not a matter of resources, this is a matter of political will.

  We’re bringing experts together for a discussion on what exactly needs to happen to ensure we can vaccinate EVERYONE as soon as possible, not just people in wealthy countries. You are invited to join us for "Breaking Barriers to Vaccinate Billions: A Roadmap for Global Vaccine Equity" and participate in this vital conversation on June 10th at 7pm ET/4pm PT.

RSVP: ::https://www.r2haction.org/vaccine-equity::

Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)

We’re so honored to welcome our panelists:

  Priti Radha Krishtel, a health justice lawyer and co-founder of I-MAK, a non-profit building a more just and equitable medicines system.

  Leena Menghaney, an activist with Medicine Sans Fronteir’s  Access Campaign based in India (otherwise known as Doctors Without Borders)

  Matthew Rose, a longstanding HIV and social justice advocate, policy wonk, and Director of U.S. Policy & Advocacy at GAP

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)

please explain to me why  in the Eu doctors haven't been able to treat their covid patient as they wanted and have to create association for the freedom of treating their patient … this is a really issue to address. the relation of the patient and his doctor r is bound by  the hipoocratic oaths. interconnectedness at a high level is at the moment destroying this sacred relationship. it is essential to keep this protected for everyone of us. the health id goes against this.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

The problems in healthcare are showing up. ALLof our systems are crumbling. SO we get to rebuild and renew

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

Re-designing societies/cities/communities at all levels, including our mindsets, holding the planetary health frame in our vision.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)

Liliane - yes BUT from the prespective  of LIFE not money.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)

Yes Kathryn, the good old build back better but with what in mind? with digital id enforced to everyone?

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)

Yes, Ilona, we need a shared social contract that includes for diverse solutions and addresses multiple issues

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

That is where trust comes in. Some standardization is very useful, but it can also be controlling. trust….

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

Moving beyond sustainability at this point, with all due respect, and towards regeneration of all systems.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

THANK YOU - Liliane!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)

Our social movements GLOBALLY must insist!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)

Humanity Rising is a good example of intersectionality and the beauty of dialogue

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

The Job of World Changing

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

We need inter-generational guidance, wisdom and collaboration.

Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

Yes Ilona, so true! being an activist has no age limit.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

aho!!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

We need all of us to show up in our uniqueness!

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

How do we, imaginal/intentional cells communicate with the darker matter rather than simply speaking in silos? Spread the gift of Humanity Rising to others… :)

Janet Ryden to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

Never underestimate the power of the little individual!

Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

I believe that llona and Vytneis are saying that they spent much of their life as activists.  The elders and the youth must join together to make the huge changes on health, climate change and the often not discussed abolition of nuclear weapons so our civilization isn’t destroyed in one stupid act.

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

yes WHo hasn't done well with the pandemic in evaluating science and scientific advice

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Kurt,  Many people can only be reached by a trusted messenger.  How about Dolly Parton?

Actually our children often have the capacity to reach us

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:18 PM)

..oOo..

Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.

You can join the Zoom Meeting

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Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

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Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)

I am glad to hear some passionate activist. I just hope that they are using their positions to work on the future we want for our society and not being influenced by lobbies and blind to what we are faced with.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)

Thanks Leo for the link to that conversation re Global Vaccine Equity. And, I'm hoping that Doughnut Economics will lead to a new way of thinking for ALL to consider world health/equality for all and a better way of living. So far the book looks as if it works so - just a case of spreading the info and - seeing as New Zealand, Amsterdam, Costa Rica and more are already doing it - we're on the way!! Money and MORE!!!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)

Yes, we must rise to our historical moment!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)

Dark defines the shape of the Light. Our shadows influence the expression of Spirit flowing through us.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

Nice Shannon!

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

Peace in everything. Everything with Peace. You could be a massive contributor with your hearty history to the Peace LAB. Participate in any branch or simply BE the force for Peace. OtherNetworks.org/Peace_LAB. Lot's of Love.

We'd love to have you collaborate with us in answering this query.

“What is the mystery of peace, that if we were to discover and embrace, our realization of it would be faster and easier."

Ma Dadey to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

lona that's great but we are censored !:(((((

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:23 PM)

Liked: "How do we want to live?"

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)

Here’s an action that anyone can take to cure humans inhumanity to others ~ A vaccine:

To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to work. Here’s an 8 minute video ~ PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/noUBgVogMw4::  Peace in Everything, Everything with Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’

On this Special Day, let’s start practicing this psycho-somatic-spiritual Meditation.

LOVE and helpfulness work wonders... When we “work it”…

Lot’s of Love,

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)

Agree, the pandemic has changed a lot.

of things

Thank you Everyone!

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)

THANK YOU FOR SERVING LIFE! :)

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)

thank you all so much for your words of wisdom  and experience.

Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)

Hopefully, CU in the afterChat

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)

love the energy  on this subject

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)

So appreciative of your dedication and commitment to well-being!!!! Moving toward LIFE creates joy!

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)

Thank you Jim!! Prevention is Better than Cure!!!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)

I might offer a gendered perspective on those rushing ahead!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)

haha, Amy, yes. there is that…

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)

And also, humanity needs to mature beyond adolescence!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)

as any adolescent, it  has to be  made VERY CLEAR change is needed…

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)

There are predictable consequences to behaviors.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)

it will help I think, when we start looking at  the One We Are through a wholistic biomimicry lens.

Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)

Go Ilona! GOODNESS in nooks & Crannies everywhere!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)

Yes, good calls to good!  Magnetic and magnifying

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)

in Grannies everywhere!!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)

Shannon, we are on the same wave length!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)

there’s lots of us… I trust

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)

Optimism and activism - go together like peaches and cream!!

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)

Might we say goodness exists  in all sorts of crooks and grannies?!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

hahaha!!!!

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

HA! Amy

Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Well said wrap-up Jim.

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

I think it was 106 F in Chico yesterday...

very high temperatures already

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Oh No - Liliane….

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

cutting  bushes allows the sun to bake the soil so deeply… we need more shade!!!

Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Healthy mindsets to Healthy PLANET.

AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Holding global hands helps, too!

Humanity Rising to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/courses/foundations-of-doughnut-economics-with-kate-raworth/::

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Yea - Shannon  and water needs shade.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

but nonflammable.

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

Grateful for this panel, thank you!

Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

yes, gratitude and thank you to the panel and Jim.

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:34 PM)

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With love...

Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

You can join the After Chat here:

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541

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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

thank you, Jim

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