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Humanity Rising Day 1142 After Chat – Friday August 22, 2025
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00:22:36 Rick Botelho: How might Israel be classified as a terrorist state? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-might-israel-be-classifed-6TrZAkpbTgm2pYZL5fGMMQ
00:22:48 Tricia Fortina: Hi everyone…
I’m here to mostly listen in, in a tentative cell access capacity…
Thanks Shannon 🙏🪷🕉️
Sending Love…
00:23:03 diana: "Why No One Could Find Mengele: Allen Dulles and the German SS" by Peter Dale Scott – Audiobook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVEaJQH3-s
00:23:20 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 1142 of Humanity Rising
00:24:38 Hyacinth: if you can bomb starving children waiting for food, you are BEYOND THE PALE
00:26:32 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: focused on our family and creating Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace. We do it through several organizations that have developed over 40 years. www.SuccessSystemsInternational.net - for business/industry, education, society, The Peace Lab, for research and development and producing podcasts, www.othernetworks.org/peace_lab; am an active member of the Rotary eClub of Peace Educators (ReCoPE), The PeaceMakers Circles Network to create a Network of Networks that educates people how to bring Peace into every area of life while become local/national leaders. The SDG Academy of Pakistan consultant; Founding member of the Evolutionary Leaders Collabaratory for Media, Unity/Purpose Earth,, WE The World, The SINE Network, Uprising Together, www.Uprisingtogether.love, iChangeJustice. We can dialogue to be a grander force for the good of all. Kurt Krueger, Peacemakerscircles@gmail.com
00:27:14 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Any impressions once you view the upcoming PeaceMakers Education website? https://preview--gift-peace-seeds.lovable.app
00:28:27 Joy Gilfilen: To pivot out of this problem we must bring in the Grandies as us humans are terrorizing and destroying the Mother Earth herself, and Father Sky at the same time. We must focus back on legacy leave of 9 generations of life on earth. I would like to speak to this, as a solution. It is all based on my after thinking of the first 7 of the prior Humanity Rising opisodes we hosted.
00:28:40 Rick Botelho: How might grassroots movement (such as indivisible and Move on) help launch a #MillionIdeas for #MillionRising defense and #MillionSpearhead offensive to deconstruct the deep state of neo-terrorism and systemic psychopathy inducing the Deranged Trump Mass Psychosis that perpetuates the PTSD: Persistent Trump Stress Disorder,? https://open.substack.com/pub/equitymoonshot/p/how-might-we-crowdsource-a-millionideas?
00:28:40 Hyacinth: NO; the Ukrainians did not want this war: I saw and heard Zelensky say that he wanted to talk to Putin at the time of the PEACE Agreement arranged in Turkey. The next day Boris Johnson flew to Kyiv and out a stop to that. How many lives have been lost since then?
00:29:20 Joy Gilfilen: By grandies...I speak about are the Grandmothers, the Grandfathers and the Grand Littles (the current youth.
00:30:45 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "By grandies...I sp..."
Grand Littles... good naming, Joy.
00:32:32 Rick Botelho: This is systemic psychopathy
00:33:06 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: JIM, do you have a special program you could link us to of Danny sharing this exposé of the Watiko/Infection.
00:33:31 Stanley Pokras: Native Americans have a word for the Infection of the Mind…
00:34:06 Dehanna Rice: Exactly! Because it’s in our collective consciousness! Crazy time!
00:34:18 Patricia Aguirre: I thought of Wetiko also
00:34:36 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "I thought of Wetik..."
That's the word!!
00:36:19 Stanley Pokras: Thank you, Patricia. I believe that Wetiko is the word I was looking for.
00:36:24 Karen (she/her): Replying to "Native Americans h..."
wetico
00:38:05 Rick Botelho: Replying to "Native Americans hav..."
How might we unravel the symbiotic synergy between systemic psychopathy and ALPD on the extreme right and left dark side— the tyranny of asocial leadership personality disorders (pathological megalomania, malignant narcissism, incessant sociopathy, autocratic authoritarianism, and sadistic destruction?
00:38:45 Mary Thorp_WV (she/her): I think we are ready for Danny & details.
00:39:52 Marilyn Schramm: Omg. I'm going now to pray for you all
00:40:24 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Be the GIRAFFE as Marshall Rosenberg shared, and guide to herds to better forage for the future of all her relations. NONVIOLENTLY through COMMUNICATION.
00:40:51 Dehanna Rice: Thanks Joy for the geophysical aspect, the Energy in Nature can show us the pathways. Connect move forward, the antidotes are in the field. Gotta go, much❤️
00:42:37 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Thich nat Hanh, said, the next Buddha is the Sangha/Satsang. "Find Your People" | Drew Holcomb & The Neighbors | Official Lyric Video, https://youtu.be/XuNxyszq-5M?si=xKdWhNejeczfjrQh
00:43:49 Rick Botelho: Gotta go and a question to ponder. How might we unravel the symbiotic synergy between systemic psychopathy and ALPD on the extreme right and left dark side — the tyranny of asocial leadership personality disorders (pathological megalomania, malignant narcissism, incessant sociopathy, autocratic authoritarianism, and sadistic destruction?
00:49:15 Joy Gilfilen: Jim, you have the top RESOURCES on the planet sitting right here on this team, when we pull this team together into a HUB of MasterMinders, into a communications new conversation platform. If reuse some of our resources here to fund the work that Shannon and Stan need tohave done; the resources to fund the work that Kurt has to do, the resources to fund the work that Karen Ball has to do, and then the gathering of all the rest of the amazing people you have here who are wise elders into working groups. For example, Leo has a library that could be on a circulation tour to every single bioregion on earth...educating the local officials. Doing a true analysis of all the resources we have laying dormant in Stan's library. I have a vision for how we can get that knowledge captured into a strategic library of information. We have only a limited perios of time to get that done before it is erased by technology dominance, etc. I have more...its tactical. We can do this.
00:49:48 diana: PROPAGANDA
00:50:06 Joy Gilfilen: We must fund alternative news...like a list of all those media sources is necessary.
00:50:11 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Jim, you have the ..."
Joy, this conversation needs to happen!
00:50:38 Joy Gilfilen: It is an emotional fear-mongering addition.
00:50:59 Joy Gilfilen: They are called ear worms.
00:51:04 Doreen T. (N.C.): Shannon & Stan please list the other news venues that we can look at it.
00:51:55 Shannon McArthur: Trump News = Junk food
00:52:36 Joy Gilfilen: We are at a "T" point, to feed more of the RUMP method. Newsom can only carry this so far, before it adds fuel to the sickness.
00:52:52 Stanley Pokras: We’ll create a list of good news sites in OtherNetworks,thank you, Doreen.
00:53:03 Lynn Brodlie: Focus on..... What We Need not What We Want
00:53:11 Joy Gilfilen: Thank you Stan, Doreen.
00:53:14 Karen (she/her): Replying to "Shannon & Stan ple..."
truthout
00:53:29 Joy Gilfilen: I agree Kurt.
00:53:41 Josh Mitteldorf: "We" are not Democrats. The D's are no better than tge R's.
00:53:43 Doreen T. (N.C.): Thank you Stan.
00:53:48 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Collaborating with Coagulation of the 8% will bring a thriving life back to life. Letting the egos compost if they are toxic. Evolutionary Leaders, I Change Justice, SINE Network, We the World, etc. are learning and coagulating more and more with HUBcast as a force. SD SHANTI is creating the WORLD LOVE FORUM. Check her out.
00:54:21 diana: Replying to ""We" are not Democra..."
FULLY agree, Josh!!
00:54:24 Josh Mitteldorf: Gerrymandering is toxic to democracy no matter who is doing it.
00:55:02 Joy Gilfilen: Please join us on the Intentional Change Network on the Noble Goldman platform to become the mastermind center.
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00:58:01 Stanley Pokras: Jim, no one is asking what I think might be the Key question: Who controls and leads the thinking of the Military Industrial Complex?
00:59:14 Joy Gilfilen: The book written by Diane Sue about "Remarkable Resilience" is deeply rooted in research that is elder woman level.
00:59:25 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Replying to "The book written by ..."
YES. GRAET Query
00:59:40 Patricia Aguirre: Stan, trying to copy messages...and not possible...any change>
01:00:11 Tricia Fortina: Wish I could’ve spoken.
Driving out of range.
My understanding about re-districting, say with California & other Democrat states…, that it wouldn’t give enough seats.
I’m fine with Newsom doing what he’s started, tho will it ultimately give more seats.
The person stating this, said it wouldn’t…
01:02:13 diana: Replying to "Stan, trying to copy..."
I am having no Problem copying, Patricia. Can it be your phone/Laptop??
01:03:30 Patricia Aguirre: Replying to "Stan, trying to copy..."
Thanks...I will check out...
01:04:22 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Getting more people to simply listen to our FRIDAY HR/Chat gatherings OR other such gatherings as I posted earlier. Have you be on any of the one’s I listed?
01:05:08 Shannon McArthur: Kurt, are you a subscriber to the AfterChat YouTube channel?
01:05:56 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: I haven’t subscribed to any as far as I know.
01:07:23 Heather Tischbein: Replying to "By grandies...I spea…"
What is the epigenetic through line of full spectrum dominance from the doctine of Discovery from the papał bulls of the late 1400s? This orientation towards and belief in full speactrum dominace is embedded in our DNA…at least is’t feeling that way to me in this moment. Full spectrum domance…is how we believe the world to work.
01:08:14 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: The friend who created this website has designed a new way you exchange goods and services, etc. Currently check out his current site. :)
01:08:15 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Experience two MOST beautiful, futuristic, and practical PeaceMaking sites check out www.weareone.one. I met Ray Podder after a program I did at the Santa Monica Futurist Salon in the early 90’s. The other is Biominga, designed by dedicated students of Bukminster Fuller.. https://www.biominga.com
01:08:31 Joy Gilfilen: FEAR runs the whole thing.
01:09:39 Karen (she/her): #177-iChange Justice Podcast… - iChange Justice - Apple Podcasts
01:09:55 Shahin Mastian: Thank you al lot. I must go to another meeting. It was another great session. See you next week.
01:10:18 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Thank you al lot. ..."
See you! thanks for coming!
01:10:35 Lynn Brodlie: Thanks everyone. Need to go now
01:11:36 Joy Gilfilen: That means Fear-Mongering fuels the fire...and even if all is true, we need to state truths from those who live in the area (bioregional news funnels)….from those boots on the ground, and focus it all on the destruction of the earth, the land, the water, the toxicity in the life force. Then and only them can you bring in the psychosis, the manipulations, the rest.
01:11:41 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Shannon & Stan ple..."
Some of Jim's choices are listed here: https://othernetworks.org/Jim_Garrison_-_Some_news_Sources
01:12:00 Karen (she/her): #124-iChange Justice Podcast … - iChange Justice - Apple Podcasts
01:15:27 Heather Tischbein: Replying to "By grandies...I spea…"
Fare Thee well friends. I’ll see you next Friday, Question Authority.
01:16:03 Joy Gilfilen: human reactivity. Moving through to the acual feeling of JOY as it is circulating through our bodies as we are experiencing living regenerative reality. We need to remember our vital bodies, our nerve endings. It is my experience that we must write about and feel the VISION at work. I agree, Sue, that this experession of our soul is the EXPRESSION of VITAL LIFE FORCE ENERGY working for us all.
01:17:38 Joy Gilfilen: Heather, that is what HAS BEEN. WE can change this with the power and action of INTENTION at work.
01:18:41 Joy Gilfilen: Hyacinth, I agree with Sue and Shannon...this is essential. For we, women are carrying the life in our bodies...we FEEL IT from the inside out.
01:20:05 Joy Gilfilen: I agree with Sue and Shannon, Hyacinth,...this is essential. For we, women are carrying the life in our bodies...we FEEL IT from the inside out, and the point that we have to pick up the pieces is critical truth.
01:20:53 Joy Gilfilen: I, too must go... Thank you all for this...good Work, Shannon.
01:21:14 Joy Gilfilen: Thank you Hyancyth. I am on the limb too.
01:22:34 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Would you like a sample of a PeaceMakers Circle meeting, with SD Shanti, Josef Tichy, Franka Striezel, and Kurt Krueger. 8/20/25 https://youtu.be/tpcg8iaBUtA?si=Se-O3qA6uZZuVK9D
01:23:01 Patricia Aguirre: Great to be here..It brings so much to me...I also am at the limb!!! And right now exploring the Wetiko theme... general pychosis is taking over...I have to go...love you all!!!
01:23:04 Joy Gilfilen: Check out his podcast that I hosted with Patrician Ann Davis, a Navajo elder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/124-ichange-justice-podcast-the-betrayal-origin-story/id1682127291?i=1000650047454
01:23:52 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Replying to "Great to be here..It..."
Lets talk saaoon
01:28:22 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: ROTARY ~ The Four-Way Test
Of the things we think, say or do:
Is it the truth?
Is it fair to all concerned?
Will it build goodwill and better friendships?
Will it be beneficial to all concerned?
01:28:45 iPhone 13 Pro Max: LoveLoveLove
With
Peace on. Earth
For All!!!!
This is the. Truth and what. I.
Want!!
W ANT !!
01:29:30 Joy Gilfilen: Ignoring the Wetiko is inadvisable...we must recognize when a swamp is there. By comparision, fall in a swamp and I know from personal experience that it is hard to pull your feet out. There is no bottom to leverage against. To get out creates a vacuum and it makes one heck of a sucking sound to extricate from it. It is hard to get out unless you can touch solid ground to leverage with.
01:29:43 Shannon McArthur: We are finding our overall Truth... through sharing our perspectives.
01:30:16 Joy Gilfilen: Thank you all.
01:32:17 Joy Gilfilen: Also, a human chain of arms linked gets us out of the swamp.
01:32:22 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: See God in Each Other and know that God dwells withinyou as You. Muktananda
01:34:44 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Thanks for today’s gift of your Presence. PEACEMAKERS have a Salute! Whenever we say goodbye, when we leave your friends or a meeting, send more Love into the world with The Peace Salute, https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk?si=PCQIWALBoADIhng2, ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! We can too. The video includes the origins of its creation. Our youth also love it.
01:38:30 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: Has anyone checked this out: https://preview--gift-peace-seeds.lovable.app PeaceMakers Education. Can use for simple funding to publish when it’s finished. https://youtu.be/VmZu_nbd0uo
01:40:46 Joy Gilfilen: I think we need 10-12 small books, that are linked together... it is a whole-ism.
01:43:20 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: WINNING WAYS FOR LIVING, Varieties of approaches to creating a better life and other optimizers for Peak Performance/Health are available practices in Winning Ways for Living * ( Vol. 1-4, The first and last were on the Bestseller list) ~ Book 4 is the three books in 1 with added material, to make your life better… https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Ways-Living-Smarter-Perform/dp/1540862208
01:44:56 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakerInspirit: PEAK PERFORMANCE for Academics, Sports, and any walk of life.
Check this out if you wish to achieve Peak Performance for a thriving life on our planet. On the first of the 11 Days of Global Unity, The Dali Lama led off this Online “Conference” Event.
Here’s the Climate Healers session, PEAK PERFORMANCE PRACTICES FOR A THRIVING LIFE, https://www.facebook.com/climatehealers/videos/1762480847224789.
And a Peace Lab presentation on Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit: Going Beyond Your Beyond: Peak Performance Practices for a Thriving Life/Society, June 2, 2022. with Dr. Gabriel Cousens and Kurt Krueger. Dr. Cousens only did 1,000 pushups every other day at the age of 80! NOW at 84, he's only doing 1,600!!!! https://youtu.be/mU6kObo4Frw
Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA
01:50:37 Joy Gilfilen: I have been doing it on the Intentional Change Network.com, We are behind making the systems go what we want, but if you simply join this for free, you can begin to see how our teams are assembling in teams to take on projects. Then as we build the network effect, with those who subscribe at the next level, then our teams cn continue to work...and the whole thing blossoms into an economic support process. Kurt is one of those teams, karen Ball is one of those teams, etc. It takes people who understand technology to program it. We have a team platform nucleus that is pumping the heart/drumbeat out. It is a work in progress already.
Thank you, STAN -- you inspired us...and are linking us together. So it is working.
01:51:37 Joy Gilfilen: This is exactly why Kurt and I are working with the Intentional Change Network process.
01:52:15 Joy Gilfilen: We are bringing the atoms back together. It is a process.
01:53:34 Joy Gilfilen: Gathering atoms takes more work than blowing them apart. Until we get the synchrony going.
01:55:58 Stanley Pokras: Daniel Rieders – Medical Shamanism https://othernetworks.org/Daniel_Rieders_%E2%80%93_Medical_Shamanism
01:58:08 Stanley Pokras: Tricia Fortina https://othernetworks.org/Tricia_Fortina
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