Day132HRAfterChat
Humanity Rising Day 132 After Chat
- Date: Thursday November 5, 2020 (2020-11-05)
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From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 ) Hello Day 132
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 ) Good Morning From: the sunny woods of North Carolina….patiently waiting
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 ) Good morning everyone
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:02 ) Good Morning Beautiful people… Jim, you look well! Thank you for being here, in my morning. Bless you, and all… All, please include attendees in your chat comments.
From: Mushin Patric Roberts to Panelists and Attendees: (11:02 ) Good Morning From: Pine Ridge SD
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:03 ) Good morning, heart opening chanting From: Seattle. Necessary! been hours this am. Thank you.
From: Daniel Rieders to Panelists and Attendees: (11:06 ) good morning From: Palo Alto California Earth
From: carol adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:06 ) good morning From: the ancestral land of the Lenni Lenape (Philadelphia)
From: Daneille Hansen to Panelists and Attendees: (11:06 ) Good morning From: Carlsbad, California cloudy and peaceful today
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:09 ) we don’t have to follow the “advice” of newscasters and doom-and-gloomers - we choose our own way.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:09 ) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 . ..oOo.. ========================== . We have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the same time. We also send a daily message to the list that points to all of the HR Chats since mid July. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ==========================
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:10 ) Welcome Shelly.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:10 ) good morning Shelly!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:10 ) Nice to have your update…Shelly!
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (11:11 ) @Shelly so good to have your grounded insights
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:11 ) realizing that the worst does not HAVE to happen!
From: Jim Garrison to Panelists and Attendees: (11:13 ) Loved Mill Valley. Great place to raise the kids.
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (11:17 ) International election observers From: the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) accused U.S. President Donald Trump of "gross abuse of power" on Thursday, November 5
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (11:18 ) Patriciafaye- Wonderful to know of the wonderful work that my fellow Tam High grads - your daughters- are doing in the world.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:19 ) Thank you Anne-Marie; good to know.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:19 ) @Shelly. Thank you for the link.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:19 ) Good sunny morning everyone. Whatever the outcome, throughout it all, we must remain heart-centered, still, resilient, and strong.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:20 ) We appreciate your work Shelly!
From: Beverly Sullivan to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 ) Voting machines are not connected to the Internet, so they can not be attacked.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:23 ) Do all counties have the same number and kind of checks and balances?
From: Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees: (11:24 ) A Republican professional computer hacker told a group g progressives in 2000 that it is very easy to hack an election by changing a few ines of code.
From: Beverly Sullivan to Panelists and Attendees: (11:25 ) Mine in Pennsylvania are not connected to Internet.
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 ) I find it hard to see the United States as a true democracy when I see so much suppression and overall cheating. If this were a third world country the United Stats would have been screaming about how crooked the election process was.
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 ) https://www.harvard.com/event/what_just_happened_writers_discuss_the_post-election_moment/ Here is the panel discussion you might want to register for with Dr. Snyder this afternoon
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 ) Welcome Jack, Max and Carolyn.
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:27 ) I will watch and report back on it tomorrow
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:27 ) Paul, my reaction too!
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:27 ) Thanks everyone for your kind comments, I do appreciate it
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 ) What do you mean, growing up, they are grown un.
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 ) Yes! Mill Valley. Graduated in 2010
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 ) Thanks Shelly. Yes it would be important to take the time,money and energy to look at standardizing/equalizing the checks and balances.
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:31 ) Very well said @Jack.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:31 ) @Jack I fear yo are right and that is SO scary given the movement we need to make on the climate.
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (11:33 ) Sense making is so important right now. Charles Eisenstein recommends this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v5RiMdSqwk
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:34 ) @Marty - thaks! @Max - yes - sad!!!
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 ) Exactly - Max is right on with that
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 ) Agree Marty sense making-critical thinking +self knowledge,('follow your gut,intuition).
From: Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 ) Some old line Republicans cannot identify with party of Trump even when his policies serve the wealthy. That is a sign of a cult i-m-o.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:37 ) What was it like growing up in this atmosphere of adults being so…? How has it affected your decisions about who you are? And your peers’?
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:37 ) In my area, it has been clear that the Democrats tended to ignore the local organizations.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:39 ) untrustworthy… when I was a girl I felt I could trust adults. Maybe this is the lesson that Humanity needed to learn - age does not make you worthy of trust.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:39 ) The Dems sent message after message asking for money and not offering to accept local assistance From: the local Democrat groups.
From: KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees: (11:41 ) I have family that are Trump supporters - they have totally different facts. I don’t think we truly know how deep an issue this - what is truth- situation is.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:41 ) Thanks for this Stanley...didn't realize that....always learning.
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (11:42 ) I am curious how people's different needs (per NVC) create different lenses for what is truth? How do needs change as life conditions and maturity change?
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (11:43 ) Reality is filtered through your state and stage of psychological development and your worldview. Worldview is determined by your life experience and the information we are exposed to. Has everyone seen Social Dilemma on Netflix? We are actually seeing different information because DRAMA sells ads and keeps our eyes on the screen.
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (11:44 ) The general definition of your voters is 18-29. I’ll be 30 in April, so last election where I’m considered “young”, and I’ll hang onto it ;-)
- young
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (11:45 ) I square the circle with they don’t want the policy “we” do because it scares “them” because it is radical change.
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (11:45 ) @Shannon, yes the widespread loss of trust (in other people, in institutions, and even truth) is a symptom of the loss of grounding (to Oneness, to earth) that characterizes our age… David Stoney
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:45 ) What is the psychology,environment that has led to this the variation and polarity?
From: Kala to Panelists and Attendees: (11:45 ) It’s bizarre🧐 Well said Jack!
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:46 ) ‘limited’ constraint… haha.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:47 ) Yes Jack….worth seeing Social Dilemma
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:48 ) @Katherine - Yes I think the ‘free speech’ issue is key to this mis information and we are ignoring it.
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:49 ) We are a failing state -
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (11:50 ) Yes, this is deranged capitalism. If money is your only value this is what you get.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:50 ) Yes Jack, the current environment of over reliance on social media as source of truth plus need for thorough investigation of all aspects of news. is required
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:52 ) Remember - one of the key issues in authoritarian takeovers is this concept that there is no truth
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:53 ) Rank voting - opens up the voting to other voices
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:53 ) Thank you, Shelly. Good to know.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:53 ) The Republicans won WITHOUT a platform...
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:53 ) Yes Kathryn..would like to learn more about 'Rank voting'.
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (11:54 ) Fairvote.org Tells you what cities etc. have rank order voting.
From: Patriciafaye Marshall to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 ) It may be possible that “there is no truth”. Werner Erhard talked at length about how “there is no IS World”. That there’s only “a Show’s up world”.
From: Daniel Rieders to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 ) This is the year 2020. 20 20 vision. not so 100 or 20 10. The discussion of truth seems like a story we have heard 10,000s of times. Or more. Let us change the dialogue and see what this is, with 20 20 vision. If we do not see the more truer picture, this dialogue will go on. It is like couples who have unresolvable issues, argue and in conflict to their death beds.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 ) @Kathryn...how does that compare to other systems eg. 3 poltical parties versus 2?
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 ) @Shelly, yes and the myth of a previous better state that can be revived… David Stoney
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 ) Historically, it is very unfortunate that a society of people can succumb to the phenomenon of “gasligjting”, a tactic that is commonly used by so-called authoritarian leaders. And, yes, it does require a vigilant attitude to see Truth, based on verifiable information.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:56 ) The Democrats need to learn how to build community at all levels of society. It's the lack of community interaction that makes the Democrats just sound greedy for money and more money.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:57 ) @Jane - it ensures that very win holds a majority of votes. Now the vote is divided between runners - everyone gets a percentage.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:57 ) @Stan - yes I was quite put off
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:59 ) @Kathryn, I've spoken to leaders in my local Democrat party who don't know any way to influence the national party.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:00 PM)
@Kathryn..Thnks.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)
how to find hope in all the mess that is dropped on us… yes, Jack. Turn to what gives you hope - the Earth is always there for you.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)
@Stan - yes I see that here as well. I actually ran for office and was not supported. After there was a lot of concern about our local group. There was a huge change in personal l, but no change in policy. We need new parties!!!
From: Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)
Such an important message @Jack!!!
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)
@Jack thank you for this. I felt the energy!
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)
don’t be sorry, Jack!! You say TRUTH
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)
I vote for Jack!
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)
@Jack - yes hope for young generations is what can give hope to older generations
From: Shalahnia Riversong to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)
@ Jack thanks qnd keep your smile and hope shinning bright
From: Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)
I strongly feel the energy Jack described in our younger generation and give them my full support to cocreate this shift. Their DNA is significantly different and our past methods simply will not be tolerated or considered.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)
Agree Jack...no matter what age or circumstance, it is vital that we connect and Support each other with compassion and strength as the negative energies swirl around us .
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)
@Shannon just interesting. of the amount of energy that came off conversation.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)
. ..oOo.. Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. We encourage young people to speak. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)
- ) yay energy!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)
@Stan I won’t be on today, sad
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)
let’s push it in the right way, best we can Kathryn, sad indeed.
From: Lesley Southwick-Trask to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)
voting during an epoch shift centres on finding security in the economy aka jobs for those leaving the industrial era. everything else is either related to economic security or is seen irrelevant.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)
both make me gag
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)
@Stan, Shannon. can't join you all either....work calls.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)
- ( Jane
From: Beverly Sullivan to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)
When nothing is certain, everything is possible.
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)
What, at a deep level, can account for the approximately equal division of voters between conservative vs progressive outlooks? I suspect it relates to how we recall our individual and species birth processes. Remembrance of the positive makes for progressives, remembrance of the trauma, the negative, makes for a fear-based consciousness that underlies the more conservative worldview. I have no idea why such remembrances should split so close to 50-50…. David Stoney
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)
@ Stan, Shannon..look forward to catching it later.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)
@Lesley, yes jobs are so important - to make people feel secure - entrepreneurship gives people confidence that they can create their own financial security - a better course I think.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)
Yes…Carolyn! It is the shadow we have to look at.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)
@Shannon..Diane o.k.?
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)
idk
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)
@carolyn YES.....the writing is on the wall!
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)
I don’t trust Biden either. Just saying.
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)
For those commenting and interested in truth in media and society, and ethics may be interested…I’ve been helping to grow a news platform centered on the truth. Anyone interested can join our waitlist to learn more as we launch through the website www.ovis.news
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)
good for you/us, Max!
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)
Awesome @Max! I’ll sign up.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
@Shannon...missing her voice.
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
here in California people did not vote progressively on our propositions. No to affirmative action. No to cash bail.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
me too
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
@Max - Add our project to OtherNetworks.org Add your project.
From: Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
A GREAT News source: https://thecorrespondent.com
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
Beautiful!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (12:10 PM)
Being responsible for what everyone in our life says or does is quite another….it is a deep dive into our shadows
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
Perfectly said
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
@Max - add YOUR project to OtherNetworks.org
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
@Max: Joined up. Thank you.
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
@carolyn - thanks for grounding us From: 35K ft
From: Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
Carolyn’s perspective resonates so closely with my work as an Evolutionary Ambassador with Barbara Marx Hubbard.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)
making the shift is a deep opportunity to direct human consciousness
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
I appreciate your voice @Carolyn. Far too many smart people think the inner work that needs to be done is whoo whoo. It is not. It is quantum physics.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
truth is dependent on consciousness
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
@cindy I heard the same resonance with BMH :-)
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
Truth with a capital T versus truth with a small t
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
@Jim - the way to find truth is to build community. You're dong a great thing in that direction. Thank you!
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
right Marilyn!
From: Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
@Marilyn :) xoxo
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
YES Carolyn inner work is crucial to beginning to access truth.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)
Finding truth is helped by associating it with the values the Earth uses - look for what fits.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)
@Carolyn Exactly.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)
What is true - in my view is what supports life.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)
The ground we can depend on is the inner place we create together - our common ground is in the Imagine Nation… and we are meeting there now, here. imho
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)
@kathryn yes
From: Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
@kathryn YES!
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
Universal Intellectual Standards can help
From: Cindy Reinhardt to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
We must learn to discern truth for ourselves rather than relying on being told what is truth.
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
@kathryn - Vandana Shiva had that Earth values aligned with Earth Democracy - which is science based
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
All Trump supporters I talk to believe in climate change, but they believe it is not man made because they don’t want to change. I have conversations with them to understand.
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
@Marty it’s so puzzling to me. I hadn’t even heard the expression whoo whoo until about 3 years ago and I live in California. Someone I know who is “smart” pointed someone out and called them whoo whoo—such a bizarre experience for me
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
@Jim: I think the rock would be more like a burning bush!
From: Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)
Climate change shows up in so many ways especially through mental health - we fundamentally need to reframe this term
From: Kurt Krueger to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)
Love those…
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)
@Tiffany, I think it is a matter of our culture is completely outward focused, unlike Eastern cultures.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)
@Marilyn - yes as are the Resilient Values Set. The work of Jane Jacobs also helps to understand what happens and how we get off track.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)
Inner work plus investigigation/critical thinking and discerning.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)
yes Jane!
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)
@Jane, totally agree. Critical thinking skills are at an all time low.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)
The false news fits in with the desire to not be guilty. Taking responsibility means accepting responsibility for the mess - way easier to deny.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)
@Marty, they trained it out of us…
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)
@Marty that’s true—the person I know didn’t realize that I was whoo whoo too. 😂
From: Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)
The term ‘climate change’ has so much baggage - we need new language, new framework and a new story because we will never mobilize the integrated innovation needed without that.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)
this election taught me to let go of my perspective and open to others’
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)
whoo whoo too — hoohoo!!
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)
@Jim - if "they" won't accept science - can we be curious that there might be a need (per NVC) embedded in their worldview that blocks the light?
From: Kurt Krueger to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
Q Anon has taken people off to never never land… What to do?
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
Our shadow also holds are judgments…cleansing our judgements of others does clean the environment/etheric area first before it manifests
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
I think this entire notion of my truth is different to your truth has been used and abused and is now the truth of the realm and Big Brother is very happy.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
yes Hilary! there are even deeper analysis’ of the thing we call climate change.
From: Cindy Reinhardt to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
Elections, winning/loosing aren't where our attention needs to be.
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
@Marty, Auguste...the education systems need to do a better job of teaching 'critical thinking skills'.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
I've heard the word "Shadow" many times here. But it's not something I understand. Why are we using a word that has so many possible definitions.
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)
yes Doreen! I am going through this process now
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
Fear of loss is so powerful
From: Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
Shadow is where the pain is. So how do we hear and see each other’s pain?
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
We can't learn how to live until we learn how to die
From: Beverly Sullivan to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
Death, so we can have Rebirth!
From: Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
Carolyn has just made THE point
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
The key to right action is how to connect our action to the needs of the planet? We are still acting like there is no connection between humans and the planet. If we choose LIFE then we HAVE to connect to the planet - she’s the expert!
From: Paul Coleman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)
Yes. Do what we can do because it is the right thing to do. Unattachment to the outcome enables the universe to offer us another path.
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
@Hilary, so true! They can agree to wanting clean air, water and soil health. I go for the point of commonality, not division.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
You answered perfectly.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
@Auguste….when we see it within is is called the Dark Night
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
@Stanley it’s a term From: Carl Jung—Jungian Psychology
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
@carolyn - dealing with death - as a natural life process??? (not to mention our worldview and cosmology?)
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
aho
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)
@Stanley re:shadow....so that’s why you’re confused!
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
I guess I need to find about Jung...
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
@Tiffany @Stanley yesterday’s guests talk more about the Psy side of this
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
Sacred Activism course I took with Andrew Harvey in 2010 introduced me to shadow work and it is so important for activists.
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
@Carolyn - right on planetary right of passage - takes this to another level (literally) - thanks so much.
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
comment on Biden and pushing humanity's Death with a Mandated LETHAL VACCINE?
From: Cindy Reinhardt to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
You live very differently and care very differently and put your energy in those places that express you!
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)
inner clearing and it allows for more life energy and joy bubbles up..
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
yes Cindy! Sharon!
From: Cindy Reinhardt to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
Yes! Don't loose sight of the context!!!!
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
We need more people to be more helpful to other people.
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
Yes @Auguste I’ve been listening to lots of Jungians during the pandemic. I haven’t studied Jung in depth. I really resonate with his work, though. Depth Psychology is super-interesting to me.
From: Robin Wood to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
Marilyn- hello! Yes, looking at this From: being part of a planetary transition and also a life that is simply one of many learning journeys on earth
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
@Marty absolutely! I’ll look I to this course. the publication I edit is working with social activism
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
@Kathryn..agree on connecting our needs to that of the needsof the Planet. Our indigenous peoples have much wisdom to share if we listen and learn.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)
we are HUMANITY RISING From: the ashes of the past… let it be past.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
@Carolyn Thank you for shining your elevated vision.
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
Creating our version of Goodness, Truth and Beauty in the world From: the inside out. Thank you @Carolyn!
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
Mandated Vaccine? End of the Species please comment. no hope here?
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
@Robin - yes we would see this as planetary transition - long time Renaissancers/Thrivers that we are - life conditions always matter :-)
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
you go to the Earth, Max. Good.
From: Rita to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)
The planet will survive either we will be here or not
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:24 PM)
@tiffany Yes, iJungian work feels transformative to me
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)
Carolyn, could you speak to the etymology of the term “catastrophe?”
From: Auguste Hill to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)
@rita Right! when I connect with Pachamama/Earth I get this sense she will be fine without us
From: Rita to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)
Both have good and bad in them. Anyway its not about them but each one of US to make the difference in this WORLD
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)
local actions serve to support your body… very good to focus there, and we need this kind of action too — thank you Jim
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)
@max - hope in local actions - that is such a powerful complement to @carolyn's planetary perspective - it is how Earth asks us to act -)
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)
@Majalehn. Vaccines are a false flag issue. If you are interested in investigating the concept of “false flag”, check out Marc Gafni and Barbara Marx Hubbard teachings.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)
well seen, Marilyn. ty
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)
Would love to ask the Indigenous Wisdom Keepers the question of What is Truth and how do we access the Truth?
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)
@Jane great idea
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)
this RNA/ DNA LETHAL VACCINE needs to be our focus don't you think? its looming and Biden will support this horror Somebody say something Please
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)
Weekly kayak patrols, to monitor spills, trash on Lake Union. PSK gives me hope
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)
gov’t funded West Coast cleanup provides some hope…
From: Patriciafaye Marshall to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)
To: Majalehn: You must be familiar with Dr. Zach Bush!
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)
Think Cosmic, Feel Global, Act Local (Jude Currivan) - that shifts up to @Carolyn's wview
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)
@Patriciafaye Yes thru Pachamama Alliance
From: Rita to Panelists and Attendees: (12:30 PM)
lots of states dont agree and act on making changes no matter who the president is and even going against some measures
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:30 PM)
Jack is building community, not just politicking.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:31 PM)
oh, Jack… we should talk…
From: Patriciafaye Marshall to Panelists and Attendees: (12:31 PM)
To Sharon: Yes, That’s how I was introduced to him. He’s all over You Tube! Such Brilliance!
From: Rita to Panelists and Attendees: (12:31 PM)
Majalehn I also dont agree they should be mandatory and when some show b is a pedo not good but still people need to make stands and share and act
From: Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
@Mejalehn. I hear you and see you.
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
@Jack - take a look at https://wikidelphia.org/MilkCrate
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
@Patricia Faye. Yes so many
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
Amen Jack!
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
@ Carolyn, thanks, I watched your interview with Jeb Bendell… David Stoney
From: Jack Policar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:32 PM)
Thank you all!
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
Listen to Zach Bush to DelBig Tree to SayerJi Ca
From: 895 837 864 Password FYJ to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
great direction Jack..keep going!!! 👏👏👏
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
@Jack - love your ethos re innovation/big bucks - check out Vinay Gupta - maybe you know him as serial innovator with similar ethos :-)
From: Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
@Jack Your energy is contagious!
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
Beautiful! @jack Max Good Works!
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (12:33 PM)
Thank you all for the astute observations and encouragement. <3
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
It is so good to know this. We are weaving together. YES
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
this is the action of a torus…
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
@max thanks for your depth/breadth of local knowledge/wisdom/service
From: Patriciafaye Marshall to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
Can we get Dr. Zach Bush on here?
From: Max Perrey to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
Would be glad to connect and continue the conversation so feel free to add on social media, or email. max.perrey@gmail.com
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:34 PM)
Yes Carolyn...it is crucial to support each other with compassion.
From: Robin Wood to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Go down together and see what comes up the other side- wise words Jim :-)
From: Jack Policar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Thank you all for the positive support! :)
From: Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Carl Callaman’s work reflects this message through ancient wisdom. https://calleman.com
From: Jack Policar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Feel free to reach out to me at policar.jack@gmail.com
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
this is a catastrophe we need to wake up to whats going on the VACCINE is the Big ISSUE.dont be afrais
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Yes Shelly...peace,compassion,kindness.
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Re: vaccines it’s really more about the state you live in.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
Grateful so much for this - all of this! Please come to the After-Chat and speak with your audience/friends here.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:35 PM)
@Shelly it's a WRAP. Thank you
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
@Max - join us in the After Zoom- I'll post the link in a minute.
From: Jack Policar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
Thank you UU !!
From: Rita to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
Dont worry B hippie :)
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
hahaha!! yes, Rita!
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
Thanks soo much to you all....young and getting older.
From: David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
Health and wholeness and thanks to all… David Stoney
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
@carolyn - thanks for your fierce grace and wisdom
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:36 PM)
Bye folks, see you tomorrow!
From: shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
Thanks everyone!
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
nothing to do with the State a covid mandatory VACCINE is LETHAL Learn the TRUTH Tyand Charlene BOLINGR
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
Don't forget to pick up the leavings bottles cans while you are out.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
thank you Jim. She gave us RISE, and gives it too
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
Nature is my medicine @Jim yes
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
blessings....a demain, see you tomorrow.
From: Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees: (12:37 PM)
Thank you to all of the panelists today....so much to consider during these tumultuous times.
From: Jude Asphar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
every element we are made of, is Earth
From: 895 837 864 Password FYJ to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
🙏🙏🙏
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
to make us - same as any other Mother
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
Bobby Kennedy. tune in to this NOW no time to lose
From: Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
Maj—they can’t make vaccines mandatory. they could make int mandatory to travel etc...
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:38 PM)
me too contagious joie d’vivre
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:39 PM)
Yes Jim..Gold star From: this teacher.
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
Beauty personified.
From: Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
All Brilliance Thank you. Wellbeing to all as we go forth today. Inspiring!
From: Lesley Southwick-Trask to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
Please join us in the after Chat
From: Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
. ..oOo.. Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. We encourage young people to speak. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541
From: Jude Asphar to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
and Jack’s grief, not just joie d’vivre xox
From: Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
Fantastic Jim. Looking forward to it...and the beat goes on..
From: Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
link? to Otto Sharma’s politics piece?
From: Majalehn MountainFlower to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
it comes with a microchip under the skin
From: Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:40 PM)
Thanks Jim, Shelly , all panelists, chat