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00:10:22    Jean Stevens:    ::https://store.steampowered.com/app/1445700/The_Edgar_Mitchell_Overview_Effect_VR_Experience/::

00:12:59    Stanley Pokras:    It was fun that I could accept David’s graphic and post a link to it in the HR Chat. Here it is again… ::::

00:13:03    Jean Stevens:    ::https://store.steampowered.com/app/1445700/The_Edgar_Mitchell_Overview_Effect_VR_Experience/::

00:14:48    Jean Stevens:    ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFX8UGVeZI&t=1s::

00:15:48    Jean Stevens:    Department of Peace above is 5 minutes in length & the intersectionality of abolition of nukes for money for social justice and the climate change/biodiversity movements.

00:17:17    David Stoney:    About psychological projection: Projection of ones disavowed parts into the other leads to a diminishment of the sense of self.  “The attempt to harm, possess, or control the other is due to the fact that the individual does not distinguish self from other, and attempts to control those parts of themselves that they have projected into the other by controlling the other” (West, M. Feeling, being, and the sense of self, p.7, 2007).  And when there is a widespread lost of grounding such as we have at this particularly extraordinary time in our species’ history, a contagion of projection can affect many people.  They then think and feel it to be perfectly ‘normal’ to believe baseless conspiracy theories and to develop a cult-like attachment to leaders who reinforce their erroneous beliefs.  The capacity for such projection stems from the remnants of our oldest and longest lasting mode of consciousness called ‘Participation Mystique.’

00:22:16    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://sk.sagepub.com/reference/the-sage-encyclopedia-of-war-social-science-perspectives::

https://sk.sagepub.com/reference/the-sage-encyclopedia-of-war-social-science-perspectives/i5961.xml::

Dehumanizing the enemy involves denying the enemy’s humanity by negating in the enemy the characteristics normally associated with human beings, such as morality and compassion, and instead associating the enemy with acts of evil and depravity that merit forceful action and retaliation. Dehumanizing an enemy during conflict forms part of the psychological offensive of war, and the image created of the enemy plays an important role in enabling soldiers to fight and kill as required during war and in encouraging civilians to support the actions of war and to maintain their enthusiasm for it as the casualty figures start to rise. The fear of what will happen if a demonized enemy is not overcome—or at least pushed back or contained—becomes a tool to justify why ...

00:28:20    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/video/dehumanizing-enemy::

Dehumanizing the Enemy

Scholar James Edward Waller discusses how perpetrators of atrocities dehumanize their victims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbfL8eaF7kQ::

Racism and War the Dehumanization of the Enemy (1 of 8) - Scott Ewing

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Scott Ewing was an Army scout in Tel Afar from 2005 to 2006. He describes how treatment of civilians became progressively more brutal. Early on, soldiers sometimes broke down gates and front walls. Later, because the residents were believed to be insurgents, they ordered everyone out of a neighborhood and into camps outside the city, while American airships bombed the houses. ...

00:29:40    Leo Jacoby:    David, I commend your HR comment: From David Stoney to Everyone:  11:22 AM

Creating an enemy is important for control by the elite and is also an important aspect of psychological projection.  Seeing darkness in the “other” is a great way to avoid looking at the darkness in our own hearts.

00:31:33    Leo Jacoby:    David, do you have any of your research on projection available online?

00:32:41    Jean Stevens:    Today the breaking news was the 25 or so top billionaires whom don’t pay much in taxes compared with the majority of the populace in the USA.  Jeff Bezos didn’t even pay taxes in two different years.  I wish the Green Party would become strong in the USA and around the world.

00:34:22    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-dehumanization-of-the-enemy/::

00:35:12    David Stoney:    Leo, I have a paper in process that I can share.  Docx or Pages?

00:36:10    David Stoney:    I need to work on the section about particpation

00:37:08    Leo Jacoby:    Docx please. I am working on a talk on participation my wife and I will give in July

00:38:22    David Stoney:    Jea, I wonder if the monetary system can change without a prior collapse?

00:38:49    Leo Jacoby:    Jea's focus on the environmental crisis reminded me that we have discovered WE are the enemy: ::https://humorinamerica.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/the-morphology-of-a-humorous-phrase/::

00:41:50    Jean Stevens:    I need to leave and get ready for my appointment.  Thank you for the stimulating conversation.

00:42:03    Leo Jacoby:    bye Jean xx

00:49:11    Stanley Pokras:    It was fun that I could accept David’s graphic and post a link to it in the HR Chat. Here it is again… ::::

00:51:53    Leo Jacoby:    A cartoonist evolving link of covid to biodiversity collapse: ::https://mackaycartoons.net/tag/tsunami/::

00:55:13    Stanley Pokras:    Agreements

   Everything we know, everything we see, everything we do together depends on agreements. Language is a tool for making agreements, writing is a tool for recording agreements, money is a tool for enumerating and assigning value to our agreements. Agreements among people are the basis for our conscious reality. Without a process for agreed upon concepts, our reality would be awash with meaningless sensations.

00:56:46    Leo Jacoby:    My talk in preparation for July is on "Family, Community, Participation." one of 7 tenets of Catholic Social Teaching. Echoes trinitarian theology of participating in divine life. Cf. Richard Rohr's The Divine Dance: The Trinity and Your Transformation. "Participation" key for understanding ecology -- human participation with the rest of nature who we are.

01:07:51    Jea:    Cells in the brain don't deal about monetary means or anything else, they just work together in an interconnection / they only work together in a network.

01:16:30    David Stoney:    Thanks to all, health, wholeness, curiosity, kindness, courage, and love…. I must attend to other stuff now.

01:17:56    Jea:    Why it is impossible to save our existence while maintaining the monetary world system !

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Survival war measures of Humanity - Our last ditch hope !

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01:18:56    Leo Jacoby:    In so far as corporations are shareholders what will shareholders demand of their managers? The doom and gloom projection of the future we are creating goes deeper to David's comment earlier: "Seeing darkness in the “other” is a great way to avoid looking at the darkness in our own hearts."

01:21:00    Leo Jacoby:    David, thanks for your contributions. I look forward to reading your paper in progress" leopjacoby@gmail.com

01:21:02    Jea:    I put here what I did ask in the webinar before; I don't know if you saw it...

01:21:06    Jea:    We have to recognize, that we have now a completely new situation, a situation which never existed in the whole of our, of humans history ! It's the threat of an imminent and planetary self-annihilation due to the climate catastrophe, just to mention that in the mean time an 'Abrupt Climate Change' can happen, or are we already in the midst of the onset of that, which can be up to 18°C after a cascade...

Not to mention an ecological breakdown due to other factors of money-driven human behavior...

So factually, we as humanity are in a sense dealing with an enemy hitherto completely unknown to us, who is forcing us to unite as a whole world! Which is just one factor why we cannot fight against the catastrophe of likely timely self-annihilation, within and in while maintaining the monetary world system that keeps the world divided..

Against this enemy, we must take measures that humanity has never accomplished before, at a speed similar to that of the times of world wars, only this time globally united...

01:21:13    Jea:    Which can only be carried out if the world organisation via the monetary world system, our current organisational auxiliary means, is transferred at short notice, within months, onto global networking prepared for it.

This is the factual situation for the oligarchies, the financially rich & super-rich, as well as for the financially poorer strata of the world population..

Thus, the rich and super-rich, the oligarchies, can in fact only preserve their existence, as this applies to all companies and corporations of this world, if this great act of humanity, which is commonly regarded as "impossible-to-achieve", is carried out in the shortest possible time …

This is the new situation !

Either we realize and accept this or we will soon be gone, extinct....

Or how do you see this issue...?

01:22:07    Jea:    Yes, either the corporations accept this, or they are shut down by the processes...

01:24:21    Jea:    Just as a quick question: Why is this one thing that conditions everything is left out..?

01:25:50    Leo Jacoby:    Jea, you and Greta Thunberg are essential voices to counter our business as usual mentality

01:28:57    Stanley Pokras:    ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_from_Nowhere::

01:30:03    Jea:    For furhter exchange.. jochenkik@t-online.de

01:42:07    Leo Jacoby:    Walt Kelly did not originate “We have met the enemy and he is us” in a cartoon strip.  It was first used on a poster to promote Earth Day in 1970.  Later, the artist put Porkypine and Pogo into a strip and attributed the phrase to Pog

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