2021 04 19 CICOLab Chat
15:02:50 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Crowdsourcing Week (CSW)
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15:09:49 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : 1. Respect the turn 2. Listen Deeply 3. Avoid I and You
15:10:40 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
15:12:35 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : An off shoot of the Glass Bead Game is called the Glass Plate Game which is a board game with cards and game board… https://wikidelphia.org/Glass_Plate_Game_(GPG)
15:15:35 From Stanley Pokras to Lauren Nignon(Direct Message) : Lauren, is there an official membership one can join for CICOLab? If so, how does one join?
15:16:13 From Lauren Nignon to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : Not yet, Stanley! We are working on that!
15:26:36 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : hello I am part of the core team in www.theconversation.cc glad nd happy to hear wht is this all about. I was on a trip
15:40:48 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : How to play, Keep to your turn, Listen deeply and respond to each play, Avoid using “I” and “you” The timer is available here, it runs automatically https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
15:55:17 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Sorry, international people, for all the American-centric talk today!
15:57:07 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : For those who have just joined: How to play the Glass Bead Game, Keep to your turn, Listen deeply and respond to each play, Avoid using “I” and “you” The timer is available here, it runs automatically https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
15:57:27 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Ken, I agree in part. If we use oneness as an excuse not to work toward justice and equality for all, then it’s not helpful. If we use oneness as a way to ensure we empathize and know each other as human, then it can be helpful.
15:59:07 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : This talk is so necessary, as an international I am so glad to be listening.Thank you for considering that, but we are humanity not nations.
15:59:15 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : Keep to your turn, Listen deeply and respond to each play, Avoid using “I” and “you” The timer is available here, it runs automatically https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
16:00:41 From Robert Best (listening only for now) to Everyone : I'm on mobile and not able to participate right now besides listening.
16:01:24 From daphne to Everyone : topic?
16:01:33 From KA to Everyone : Tonight I am only able to listen to the activity in Cicolab, but unfortunately not say/participate/be active. Sorry Gen & Erik to be missing the wonderful Glass Bead Game this evening!
16:03:50 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : I just want to watch I did not understand I am new can I stay to watch how you play, pls.
16:04:00 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : I probably will have to leave soon, just curious
16:04:12 From Erik H to Everyone : https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
16:04:23 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : but won't be able to join in
16:04:30 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : is not downloading Erik
16:04:34 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I’m kind of slow with games or puzzles or jokes… So, I prefer to watch.
16:06:12 From August Domanchuk to Everyone : Can just listen right now.
16:11:36 From Erik H to Everyone : we're playing a game greg
16:11:50 From Erik H to Everyone : timer link here so you can follow along
16:11:56 From Erik H to Everyone : will explain properly at theend
16:12:06 From Erik H to Everyone : https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/Glass%20Bead%20Game
16:14:04 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : Like the game
16:14:30 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : awesome game
16:15:14 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : i wnt to play
16:16:18 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : Would it swpolit the game if I come in just once or just type something in the chat?
16:16:33 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : or just leave, sorry about that.
16:18:30 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : very interesting, I liked it
16:19:49 From Gyuri Lajos to Everyone : Did you know that trust has the root troth bethroted and truth
16:21:26 From Erik H to Everyone : not on mine
16:23:55 From KA to Everyone : I cannot take part.
16:36:43 From Erik H to Everyone : I like that
16:36:52 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : great game, loved it.and we were mirrowing words, very interesting.Thank you
16:38:56 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Completely agree with the discipline and richness.
16:39:47 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Truly appreciate this …
16:39:52 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPffripzW4
16:41:15 From Erik H to Everyone : This world
is juuuuust
a great big onion......4
16:43:16 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : I liked - I wish - I wonder...
16:49:25 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Gen - I would like to know how to configure the timer
16:50:02 From Josh Uri to Everyone : or "brave space" :)
16:50:46 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : We play Glass Bead Games in several spaces, we can send an email out to reconnect
16:50:49 From Shelbi Walker to Everyone : I've missed you all! I'm back!!! Blessings and love to you all
16:53:16 From Erik H to Everyone : https://www.thestoa.ca/
16:53:44 From Erik H to Everyone : weekly games on Saturday at 1PM PST
16:54:22 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : https://discord.gg/F9U7HDn3
16:55:32 From Erik H to Everyone : https://zoom.us/j/595172819
16:55:46 From Erik H to Everyone : game every Thursday at noon pst
16:56:29 From vincent arena to Everyone : wow guess everything works out for a reason :D
16:58:35 From Shelbi Walker to Everyone : see you all next week. in the meantime, remember that you cannot give what you do not have...
16:58:56 From charles blass to Everyone : Thx Shelbi!!
17:00:11 From Trisha Callella to Everyone : Thanks all! I have a meeting I must go attend. Terrific discussion. Thanks for sharing the game.
17:02:17 From Erik H to Everyone : the first bird to try that was either brave as hell or completely nuts
17:03:58 From Erik H to Everyone : I bought half a pound of seaweed in Miami once
17:04:16 From charles blass to Everyone : ^^ great quote
17:05:08 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : @Ken, so trusting with that internal wisdom
17:05:09 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : ??
17:05:11 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : A pound of seaweed?🤣
17:05:38 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Wendy - it’s a honed sense the comes form experience
17:06:35 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Ken - Ah! I would call that wisdom.
17:08:16 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : need to leave thank you very much.see you soon
17:08:31 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Wendy - Old story - a young person asks a teacher how to become wise.
"By developing good judgement" is the reply.
And how do I develop good judgment?
Through experience.
And how do I gain experience?
Through bad judgment...
17:08:33 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : (without I)
17:11:26 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Allen
17:11:54 From charles blass to Everyone : going strong as leader of the Arkestra
17:12:44 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_(funk_musician)
17:15:42 From Gen Zendahl to Everyone : It’s getting really late for me, thanks for the jamming! Goodnight xxx
17:15:55 From charles blass to Everyone : thx gen!!
17:18:13 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : As a jazz fan - but not a musician, I just want to offer my gratitude for the depth of knowledge that Greg and Ras bring to this convo!
17:20:56 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : So, if the music is the greater good and jazz is a paradigm for collective intelligence, than is identifying a greater good and being in conversations with others who are attempting to server that greater good, also a paradigm for CI? or is a greater good/larger whole only one aspect of CI?
17:21:14 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : •serve - not sever
17:21:40 From James Desmond. to Everyone : Been great, have to go, thanks all. 👍
17:21:42 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : I have to go, although I love this discussion.
17:21:55 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Love that Greg! “Knowing how to make room for one another. Holding back.”
17:23:06 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Taylor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_Corea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Jarrett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis
17:23:07 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : What role does loving your enemies (or opponents, to use Gandhi’s term) play in CI?
17:25:41 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Prez!
17:26:09 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Holiday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Coltrane
17:28:15 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : Much jazz thanks Ken.
17:28:35 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Good movie “Coded Bias” re challenges of machine learning/AI.
17:28:41 From Erik H to Everyone : https://glassbead.seph.codes/rooms/rooms
17:28:57 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Movie available on Netflix
17:30:38 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Thanks Judy!
17:33:00 From daphne to Everyone : It's been a long day and my eyes are heavy. Thank you all so much for a lovely and inspiring evening. Good night and have fun!...
17:33:08 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Bye Daphne!
17:33:37 From charles blass to Everyone : Thx Daphne for being here
17:44:49 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : This is very informative.
17:45:02 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : Gotta run my citizens!
17:45:11 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : Until next Monday.
17:45:22 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : Thank you too Charles..
17:45:46 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lP84BSg=/
17:47:08 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Model_Canvas
17:47:37 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://platformdesigntoolkit.com/toolkit/
17:48:44 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : More in vogue now to have video off?
17:51:01 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Lean is still a great idea https://leanstack.com/leancanvas
17:52:04 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Where
17:52:16 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : is DAO gossip happening these days?
17:52:37 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Kernel!
17:56:17 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Who's getting Moiré patterns off my horizontally striped top? Picked just for y'all...
17:57:23 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : me, i'm getting moire!
17:57:44 From Alexar Pendashteh to Everyone : that looked fascinating, whatever that was
17:58:02 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Walter - that’s a moire!
17:58:44 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : When Walter’s shirt dazzles your eyes - that’s a moire!
17:59:06 From Erik H to Everyone : s a working platform you can go an play around on it
https://weco.io/
17:59:27 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Thanks everyone…have to hop to another meeting.
17:59:33 From charles blass to Everyone : Nice article on canvases, by a friend of cicolab/ metacaugs
https://mainograz.com/2020/08/21/canvas-a-participation-device/
17:59:35 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Bye Judy
18:00:56 From charles blass to Everyone : Pattern mining
18:01:10 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Cali startup culture is warped in many ways, but there are a few techniques I value lots - dogfooding, and Lean
18:01:57 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : dogfooding and lean are great.
18:02:09 From Ken Homer - San Rafael, CA to Everyone : I have to go too! Been awesome as always!
18:02:18 From charles blass to Everyone : thx ken!!!
18:02:33 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : another good silicon valley thing, especially in the olden days, were the amount of crosstalk that happened as employees moved from company to company to company
18:03:07 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : So day, when we are all done making the world a great place...
Would love to dig into variously labeled "learning styles" and cognitive patterns, specifically in the context if P2P learning
18:03:28 From Erik H to Everyone : I'm starting to flag. Would love to stay but am going to head off.
Thanks to you all for a great session
18:03:41 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : learning styles and cognitive patterns are SO different, and mostly we're so oblivious to them
18:03:42 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : So, how do we dogfood cico?
18:05:59 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food
18:07:48 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : deeper insight, transformative powers
18:11:41 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Experimenting with Reactions, other than Raised Hand
18:12:04 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : That’s to you, Walter
18:12:56 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : This organization has the moistest amazing records and videos, a hard labor of love
18:13:34 From charles blass to Everyone : https://bit.ly/cicolab-repo
18:14:04 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Deep profiles, I'd like to look into Finegrain Selective profiles
18:16:29 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : My index if Humanity Rising is part of OtherNetwork.org
18:17:20 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @stanley, there are several sections for Mondays, and there's been a plan for a more directed and agenda-driven early part, and this is the freeform part
18:18:12 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @cicomasters, kindly correct me...
18:18:20 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : @stanley, OtherNetwork.org doesn't work for me (DNS doesn't resolve)
18:18:32 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : @Walter, yup
18:18:58 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Oops OtherNetworks.org (I mistyped the plural)
18:19:03 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : thx :)
18:20:04 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Ouch, master word is verboten now and to me appears gender-limiting.
@Lauren, how would you label a cmbo of yourself and Charles?
18:20:50 From charles blass to Everyone : @Walter, this is the BizFlow segment
18:21:03 From charles blass to Everyone : afterflow comes later
18:21:04 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Where is flotilla???
18:21:40 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : What is massive wiki?
18:21:54 From charles blass to Everyone : all shall be revealed :-)
18:22:21 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I run a Wiki for Philadelphia, PA called Wikidelphia.org in addition to OtherNetworks.org
18:24:23 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Does Semantic MediaWiki fit into Your work Pete?
18:25:24 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @cicodevas, can you think of a group / organization that I can send $10 in crypto, in exchange for becoming beta-cico'ed?
18:26:00 From charles blass to Everyone : fascinating question, you mean the org we are creating?
18:27:19 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : In Lean, supposed to find the sub-population that will pay you for early access.
Many apps find no traction at all, so as the first step, who's open the kimono for $10?
18:28:35 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Flotilla Tools for Connectors chat system, which is sort of our home base: https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/flotilla-tools-for-connectors
18:29:21 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Massive Wiki chat system, which is the human face of our project right now: https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/massive-wiki
18:29:54 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : my calendly, feel free to book time for more about massive wiki: https://calendly.com/peterkaminski/30min
18:32:18 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : and for Massive Wiki, excuse the developer-ish-ness of this for now, but here's a list of Massive Wikis: https://github.com/Massive-Wiki/massive-sandbox/blob/main/Massive%20Wiki%20Stuff/Massive%20Wikis.md and where we're developing a starter guide: https://github.com/Massive-Wiki/massive-sandbox/tree/main/Massive%20Wiki%20Starter%20Guidebook
18:34:19 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Alexar Pendashteh - is talking about matchmaking!
18:37:08 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Recently came into a realization, based on a 3yo crypto project team blowing-up, that people often [over]value what they understand well enough to [supposedly] actually do, and entirely discount what they don't.
18:37:33 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Alexar - you can reach me as stan@othernetworks.org or 267-968-0407
18:38:16 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Walter - does your perspective from that experience make you want to bring more diverse ideas together? Or do you draw another conclusion?
18:38:24 From Alexar Pendashteh to Everyone : Thamks Stan, noted!
18:39:02 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Can we venture into areas that we are less familiar / comfortable doing, or at least talking about?
18:40:44 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Delia MacNamara - https://www.isss.org/isss-board-members/
18:40:56 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : I am Pereto about talking vs. doing, and have to push myself toward translating "meta" into action.
18:41:51 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+Strength+of+Weak+Ties%22
18:44:51 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : What 2 pieces of SW?
18:44:57 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : sensemaker leximancer
18:45:13 From charles blass to Everyone : ^^ 2 Different tools
18:45:16 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://info.leximancer.com/
18:45:44 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://sensemaker.cognitive-edge.com/what-is-sensemaker/
18:47:05 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Wendy, do you have some way for people to see and review the ideas you spoke about just now?
18:47:46 From charles blass to Everyone : ^ stan, we are developing that story, around a few of our initiatives
18:48:47 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Wendy… I’ve invented a category system that I call multi-dimensional to handle trying to keep things organized.
18:49:01 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Wanna further post-mortem on the "disaster". Was there a way to turn that particular gathering toward more coherent / productive outcomes?
Or a whole different format / membership is in order?
18:49:57 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Walter, I will talk to you about that later. It’s too much to write here
18:50:00 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : See the OtherNetworks category system here: https://othernetworks.org/The_OtherNetworks_Category_System
18:53:51 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Thanks Stanley - there are a couple of ‘typologies’ and other systems that keep categories loose. My favourite is a taxonomy of ignorance
18:56:12 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Just catching up with the chat - yes Stan - have just finished a paper and am writing a chapter in an ebook
18:56:31 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : For an example of the OtherNetworks Category System see the CicoLab page (the categories show up at the bottom of the page) https://othernetworks.org/Collective_Intelligence_Collaboratory_%E2%80%94_CICOLAB
18:56:44 From Wendy Elford to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : Hi Stan - I am at wendy@wendyelford.com
18:56:58 From Wendy Elford to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : what is your email pls if. You’d like to know
18:57:28 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @stanley, could not read the title
18:57:55 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : The Seven Laws of Money
Book by Michael Phillips
18:58:12 From charles blass to Everyone : 'Foresight Insights'
18:58:37 From Stanley Pokras to Wendy Elford(Direct Message) : Thank you, Wendy!
18:59:16 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : re: predictions, social betting: "Prediction market - Wikipedia"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction_market
18:59:41 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Long Bet Project"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation#Long_Bet_Project
19:00:02 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Idea Futures - The Concept"
https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/ideafutures.html
19:00:51 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : The first of the Seven Laws of Money is “Do It! Money will Come When You Are Doing The Right Thing.”
19:00:52 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Announcing GnosisDAO. The prediction market-driven collective | by Gnosis | Gnosis"
https://blog.gnosis.pm/announcing-gnosisdao-a7102fcf9224
19:00:59 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Have your a write-up on your TP finding?
19:02:42 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : 7 laws author - banker in 1967 he organized Mastercard
Now I'm interested
19:02:45 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Is anyone here familiar with the Blockchain currency called “Seeds?” https://othernetworks.org/SEEDS_The_Conscious_Currency
19:03:01 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Yes, Stanley
19:03:38 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Yes to Gnosis, yes to Seeds...
Maybe and No. for myself
19:04:21 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : What is Gnosis?
19:05:02 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Ethereum-based prediction market SW
19:05:24 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "How Accurate Are Prediction Markets? | JSTOR Daily"
https://daily.jstor.org/how-accurate-are-prediction-markets/
19:05:45 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Cool.
19:06:43 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Here. Trust means
19:07:30 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Reasonable expectation
19:10:03 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Always messy, just that much harder to hide right now
19:11:51 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Anyone got access to develop Zoom plugins?
19:12:29 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Xavier Rudd - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Xavier_Rudd
Xavier Rudd (born 29 May 1978) is an Australian singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist. Several of Rudd's songs incorporate socially conscious themes, ...
19:14:36 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : I found this to be a deep article about the exploitation and manipulation of collective intelligence:
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/wikipedias-deep-ties-to-big-tech
19:15:34 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Question to Wendy, about Uber?
19:17:00 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Yes - two Wendys though!
19:19:50 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Glad you are still here…
19:20:03 From charles blass to Everyone : It's early :-)
19:21:39 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Finite and Infinite Games
Book by James P. Carse
19:21:39 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Type title please
19:21:46 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Thanks
19:22:04 From Robert Best to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_and_Infinite_Games
19:22:56 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : cf. zero-sum game vs. positive-sum game
19:23:17 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : cf. extractive vs. regenerative
19:23:34 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Upward spiral vs. downward spiral
19:24:13 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Yes another set of distincitions.
Formal GT compares competitive vs. cooperative
19:24:14 From charles blass to Everyone : 'Minimum Viral Upward Spiral' = CICOLAB Mission
19:24:32 From charles blass to Everyone : ^ as a starting point
19:24:47 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : @Walter GT?
19:25:20 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Game Theory, a branch of meta-math, with the biggest application in Econ to date
19:25:24 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory
19:26:05 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Discrete and continuous games" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory#Discrete_and_continuous_games
19:26:07 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Wendy - have you seen the Encyclopedia of World Problems and Human Potential
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Visualization of Narrower Problems: Food Insecurity
http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en
19:26:56 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @wendy, will read your work.
Best way to contact?
19:28:55 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : http://www.consciousevolutionboston.org/Article---Wheel-of-Co-Creation.html
19:31:14 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Social Innovation Exchange Ltd (SIX)
19:32:08 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Love Barbara Marx Hubbard’s wheel of co-creation too!
19:32:16 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : https://othernetworks.org/Social_Innovation_Exchange_Ltd_(SIX) Publisher of a “Co-creation Guide”
19:32:57 From August Domanchuk to Everyone : Hey have to head out. Thank you guys for the discussion. 👊🏼
19:33:12 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @lauren, my apologies, I should know by now, but do you save chats?
19:35:35 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : mark: "overcoherence on narrative"
19:38:28 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in another form, patently untrue neurologically
19:39:53 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Technical ggook is actually an attempt at high signal to noise, using notation, and does take [lifelong] leaning
19:45:27 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Title?
19:45:45 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : The User Illusion: Cutting Consciousness Down to Size by Tor Norretranders
19:46:17 From charles blass to Everyone : reminds me of extitutional theory
19:46:21 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exformation
19:48:04 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : something i wrote somewhere else: my hypothesis: people have only three kinds of attention,
1) telling/listening to gossip;
2) telling/consuming rich narratives (which need to involve people or people-like entities);
3) expert navigation of a complex map/database (which works best if the map explorer is telling a #2 narrative to themselves or others)
19:50:11 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : mark: what humans "want to know" cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
19:50:49 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane
19:51:27 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "The quasi-biographical film examines the life and legacy of Charles Foster Kane, played by Welles, a composite character based in part upon American media barons William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, Chicago tycoons Samuel Insull and Harold McCormick, as well as aspects of the screenwriters' own lives. Upon its release, Hearst prohibited mention of the film in any of his newspapers."
19:51:49 From charles blass to Everyone : Rosebud scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hfQ2IOc8s
19:53:02 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : The word “Red” means “Network” in Spaniah
19:53:16 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : 38 red
130 colors
63 rose
3 red roses
3 rubies
83 fire
27 Mars
4 the red planet
142 Ruby
12 nature, red in tooth and claw
23 cardinal
81 blood
4 the red books
2 redness
5 the red
3 the redness
4 the redness of red
4 red/green
3 red/blue
4 red/white
4 the color red
8 the color of blood
23 color names
8 paprika
4 the hint of danger
4 failing example
317 talk: Derek: Habituation and Plasticity: March 14, 2010
4 Red Hughes
7 redder light
13 rubric
6 in the red
5 red wine
13 a red sharpie
5 more red
4 roses are red
5 Red Molly
4 how red
4 the colors of the Japanese flag
5 World AIDS Day
19:53:41 From charles blass to Everyone : Citizen Kane: The Meaning(s) Of Rosebud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fZZG9Osrj8 [caveat I didn't see this]
19:53:59 From Judith Benham to Everyone : Another word with many meanings is “run”
19:56:29 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_frame_theory
19:56:50 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Denying death is denying change AKA thermodynamics
19:57:16 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : wendy e.: "wired for difference"
19:58:26 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Plenty place in US, a sound of a gun is a sound of a gum
19:58:32 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : GUN
19:58:49 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : what an odd way to run a country
20:00:53 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : Have to go, fabulous conversation! Thank you!
20:02:53 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Agreements
Everything we know, everything we see, everything we do together depends on agreements. Language is a tool for making agreements, writing is a tool for recording agreements, money is a tool for enumerating and assigning value to our agreements. Agreements among people are the basis for our conscious reality. Without a process for agreed upon concepts, our reality would be awash with meaningless sensations.
20:03:26 From Mark Carranza to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : mark.carranza@gmail.com
20:04:48 From Stanley Pokras to Mark Carranza(Direct Message) : Hi, Mark…
20:05:23 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Thank you everyone.
20:05:45 From charles blass to Everyone : thank you wendy for joining the flow show
20:05:50 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : i'm heading out, too. thanks for a lot of interesting ideas and conversation. :-)
20:05:59 From charles blass to Everyone : pete, many mercis!