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11:04:43 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
MOM is in the room, your rooms and around the world!! Love to you all from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC
11:07:20 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Looking into the mystery of the Tarot via virtual reality technology… Oh, My! It’s Day 509 of Humanity Rising.
11:07:33 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Thank you
11:07:58 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you, Jim and Pete!
11:08:07 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
good morning, Peter, and all... This is the fun part!!
11:08:29 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I totally accept that some people receive wisdom from these tools. As for me, I can’t even get a clear answer from “show me yes, show me no” with a pendulum! Maybe it’s because I have curly hair.
11:09:07 From Miriam Jacobs to Everyone:
again: Even the most seasoned Tarot card readers still find Tarot a mystery.
11:09:08 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Ah, Amy, I have trouble with the pendulum as well. You'll find the right tool, in time…
11:09:19 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Definitely the curly hair.
11:10:17 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
What tool did you find, Shannon?
11:10:24 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Tarot
11:10:59 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
It is a language that Spirit and I share. I had to learn it... Spirit knows all!
11:11:26 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
and it’s not always clear to me... as has been said - it's a mystery!
11:11:29 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
❤️
11:11:47 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you for joining us, Adam
11:17:27 From Dorine van der Wijk to Host and Panelists:
Would love to experience it in VR, since I'm also creating experiences in VR :-)
11:18:14 From Peter Merry to Dorine van der Wijk, Host and Panelists:
Do you want to share your comment with everyone, Dorine? Then please select Everyone by To:
11:20:43 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
The Oculus really only connects with two senses
11:22:03 From david Beatty to Everyone:
The Medium is the Message.
11:22:20 From david Beatty to Everyone:
hmmm, maybe.. the Massage?
11:22:30 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
insightful Dan
11:23:44 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
@Dan Balcaban, did you experience TiltBrush or Multibrush yet? Because in my perspective that's not only two senses
11:23:50 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
There is an interesting movie called “Free Guy” which mirrors what Adam is talking about re: virtual reality.
11:23:57 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Why are we going to other realms? What are we looking for? What are we hoping to come back with?
11:25:08 From Martha Davis to Everyone:
I am told that Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are involved in this research of connecting brain and the virtual.
11:25:10 From Brooke KM to Everyone:
The Medium is the Massage, McLuhan
11:25:21 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
We seek tools to help us understand, and experience in a different way, the experience of life — essentially, seeking our purpose, our path and our agency.
11:26:19 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I’m asking that, too, Peter. Why am I getting further away from myself instead of expanding my own inner vision. I’m wondering how do I use this for my life & living.
11:26:55 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Mary, when I am seeking guidance, tarot is an “easy” way to go.
11:27:00 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Peter, those questions seem key to me. As I become sensitized to how often we function from separation, instead of connection, those questions keep coming up. Where we start from makes a big difference!
11:27:46 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Yes, great questions that Adam asked as he linked psychedlic experiences to VR experiences.
11:29:24 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
According to Ouspensky, the Tarot, cards emerged in Fez, Marrocco, where many seekers met and chose to bring wisdom, knowledge of humanity in a symbolic way...so the 22/ major arcana arose...I like this perspective...and the Heroes Journey can be seen there...
11:29:37 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Peter, as or more important than the questions is where you stand to answer them. Inside the system, inside life, or out side of the system, acting on life…
11:30:07 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
In terms of Tarot, the divination systems reflect something within our own field, creating clarity, awareness and direction. In terms of the VR, maybe because we are creators and expanders of consciousness....it is an interactive universe and maybe we are practicing, like training wheels of activating our own Inner Technologies
11:30:07 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I’m struck by all the men in this auditorium. What question arises is “Why are men so far behind in raising consciousness if the main people in this room are male?” What is missing in this whole picture?
11:31:38 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Mary, maybe men are more naturally drawn to technology? Not sure....boys and toys hahaaa Maybe just a different track not behind or ahead
11:32:06 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Mary, IMO the desire to control - male, vs the desire to heal - female. Not 100% but to close for comfort, for me IMO.
11:33:08 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Kathryn, more about where you’re standing, where you’re looking from.
11:33:45 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
I'm just so grateful that men are open to the spiritual dimension, exploring consciousness, etc.
11:34:46 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
Using this technology to heal is super powerful. As a woman creating in this VR space, seeing the results with my own eyes, it's a great technology to heal.
11:34:55 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Maybe to build on Kathryn's point, if indeed "the need to control” is part of the male archetype, then that would link to a need to (and talent for) explaining the experience, rather than just living it…?
11:35:10 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Mary, Are you standing in a connected space or in a separated space. We hold the world as other, and it's not. If we are connected, then respect has a different/caring flavor. If separated then respct is tinged with fear arousing control and then desire to eliminate…
11:35:33 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Good insight - Peter!
11:36:12 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
A friend of mine, Ashoka, in Byron Bay uses VR at his Quantum Uplift clinic to help people immerse themselves in their desired future creations here now.
11:36:17 From Heather Tischbein to Everyone:
Is there a way to understand whether or not, or how, the energies of one’s astrological transits (or birth chart for that matter) may influence the cards that one pulls?
11:36:29 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
I wish I could pay good attention to both Adam and this chat. Adam is our guest; I choose him. The AfterChat will be SO GOOD today…
11:36:43 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Great question Heather. Let's ask Adam his thoughts later.
11:37:49 From Heather Tischbein to Host and Panelists:
Thank you, Peter.
11:38:23 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
The idea of men having the need to control is an interesting one. As a woman I have given up this need as the moon controlled my moods and my periods when I was young and when I was giving birth to my children my mind was not in control, my body took over. It was an important wy of learning that as a human being one is not in control of one's fate.
11:39:14 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes, Judy.
11:39:15 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Judy - that is truly one major gift of childbirth. I learned that lesson then too.
11:40:53 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Peter, maybe that is why the partnership of the sexes is so important? To balance and support for life, our innate gifts.
11:41:42 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
I regret that I didn't have the vocabulary to explain this to my husband.
11:42:40 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Interesting, Judy. I know that xperience.
11:42:46 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Yes Kathyrn. I often work in teams with women, and when we present our stories, they often tell the experience and I put the experience in a context that helps people to see connections. It's a great dance.
11:42:52 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
This is brilliant work Adam! Imagine the applications for experiencing one in another's shoes/skins etc....bringing the great separation into a full immersion experience of greater oneness and compassion
11:43:06 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Yes Maureen!
11:44:01 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Nice, Peter!
11:44:18 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
How do we connect with Adam and his work?
11:45:05 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Peter, have you noticed a difference in how you show up in a majorly female context or in a majorly male context?
11:45:06 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
And also having a more in depth perception of our interconnected SELF experienced. ... Contextualized
11:45:20 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
@maureenedwardson3: this a great example of breaking down separation by VR: ::https://meetthesoldier.com/::
11:45:24 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
::https://www.astrolabe-immersive.com/::
11:45:26 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Marks Metaverse may be counterproductive
11:45:29 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Adam's site
11:45:45 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
The truth behind the universe. Why we are here. What we are here to do.
11:45:57 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Dorine any technology is dependent on it's user and intender
11:46:18 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
yes
11:46:40 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
just like our own minds
11:48:28 From Heather Tischbein to Everyone:
Tom Atlee and his colleagues at the Co-Intelligence Institute have rather 'married" the use of cards with practices of democracy and meetings in general…as tools for accessing what "wisdom" might be present in the room at any given moment and/or for creating a conscious intention for a meeting…even a public engagement meeting for governance purposes ::https://groupworksdeck.org:: and ::https://www.wd-pl.com::.
11:49:10 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Ha, Healther, a new insight into Tom…
11:49:30 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Heather, I look forward to hearing more about that in the AfterChat. Kathryn, I hope you can come today!
11:50:12 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
How is this not a subject object divide between the program and the person
11:50:44 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
You're developing the oracle
11:50:44 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Let's come to that one Aida. Good question!
11:53:22 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Oh, it looks wonderful! I want to experience it myself!!!
11:53:36 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Love this … it looks really neat!
11:53:51 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
Great work! Would love to experience it!
11:54:26 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
The thing about providing the narrative is that the intuitive aspect of the tarot seems to be lacking.
11:54:55 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Join us at Science and Consciousness in Yorkshire if you can, to experience it live. ::https://bit.ly/science_10discount::.
11:55:04 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Any books that Adam would recommend to learn about the Tarot?
11:55:11 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Shannon - I believe the REG in what brings in the intuitive side
11:55:27 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
I think you need an AI that hears what you see and adapts the narrative to that...
11:55:45 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
Amazing work, Adam. Thank you
11:56:53 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
Brilliant
11:56:57 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Remembering Brenda Dunne; may she rest in peace and love…
11:57:03 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
REG??
11:57:17 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Random Event/Number Generator
11:57:33 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
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With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:02:02 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
True Random Number Generator (TRNG)
12:03:35 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
The rituals are for US... to prepare our minds to be receptive.
12:05:38 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Rituals invite and honour the Divine, imho, while preparing us for the interaction.
12:05:42 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
I see. Metaphor contains mystery and wholeness.
12:06:20 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
I was definitely raised , without awareness in the Cartesian model. Happy and excited about this bridge
12:07:21 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Ride the wave!!!
12:08:01 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
Our lives are fundamentally and principally symbolic - a poetic metaphore for our soul's learning journey. Once we learn the language of reality, a divine conversation takes place, and no experience good or bad is wasted.
12:08:21 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
YES Peter I completely agree open curiousity is where the potential is available
12:09:30 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
maybe astrology is the first REG or TRNG
12:09:50 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
I am almost positive that Lynn McTagart (sp?) has influenced random number generators with her Group of 8 experiments. If that is true, then intention can influence the computer.
12:11:23 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Yahoo!!
12:11:57 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Like Gregg Braden with the group TM intention for peace in the mid east war zone and violence in Wash DC
12:13:45 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
This is an absolutely amazing idea. My experience of the first few slides was that it was like in the 1960's when I first walked into a psychedelic hippie type shop. But more so. I can see how this would really shift perception.
12:13:52 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Interesting to design User questionaires for before and after the experience…
12:13:56 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
beliefs expectations influence an experiment outcome
12:14:56 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Exciting field…
12:15:22 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
For those of us seeking connection to the greater whole, I think it could really create that kind of experience.
12:16:58 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Ok ok I'll do it
12:17:25 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
I'm in for the mocap - www.danbalcaban.com
12:18:14 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
If you would like this (and future) chats via email, send me your address: stan@othernetworks.org
12:18:30 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
Would be amazing teaching tool
12:18:32 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
There's SO much potential!! FUN!!
12:18:48 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:
Can we ‘ginny pig’ for an experiment…?
12:18:48 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
Do you use the I Ching Adam? If one keeps consulting it one gets an answer indicating that one is being stupid!
12:18:56 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:19:33 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Do you need the headset? HOw much does the headset cost?
12:19:37 From Maia Monasterios to Host and Panelists:
How do we get in touch with you for potential project collaboration in terms of research on impact on consciousness? ~ Maia Monasterios ~ maia@luminousstories.com, www.luminousstories.com,
12:19:39 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
I will be checking App lab :-)
12:19:57 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
Oculus Headset 2 is around 350 euro
12:20:21 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Jim G uses the I Ching!! Good to know!
12:20:22 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
Adam's site: ::https://www.astrolabe-immersive.com/::
12:20:37 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
The Secret of the Golden Flower is the book that Jung wrote an intor for.
12:21:16 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Excellent book. Talks about the circulation of the light in the body.
12:21:37 From Miriam Jacobs to Everyone:
Connecting is the most important and I believe experience of the practitioner’s.
12:21:38 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
To my understanding more than asking a yes no..response..ask for guidance is best...in the sense..of what does this bring to me...or what is it I have to look for now..
12:21:54 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
no kidding Peter
12:22:02 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Right on
12:22:03 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
And I Ching is perfect as well as the Tarot cards
12:22:08 From Brooke KM to Everyone:
YES!!! PETER!!!
12:22:14 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Listening to the Earth seems like a more useful and relevant path, IMO
12:22:27 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Thank you to ALL of you for being present
12:22:34 From Dorine van der Wijk to Everyone:
Well stated Peter!
12:22:37 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:22:49 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
I like asking for guidance too... the first card “Past" indicates the subject ...
12:23:30 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
I wish our guests were made aware of the AfterChat.
12:23:31 From Maia Monasterios to Host and Panelists:
Please put in chat again
12:23:37 From Maia Monasterios to Host and Panelists:
For the discount link
12:23:55 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
This is an opportunity that is so rich for Everyone!!
12:24:14 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Pretty amazing... Thank you!!!
12:24:21 From Peter Merry to Everyone:
::https://bit.ly/science_10discount::
12:24:25 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Sentient AI
12:24:43 From Adam Malone to Host and Panelists:
Thankyou!
12:24:47 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Google is stopping that from becoming public
12:25:23 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
A machine has parts made from nature
12:25:28 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
You can click the AfterChat link, click the launch button and don't click the Red Leave & Join button when the time comes…
12:25:28 From Miriam Jacobs to Host and Panelists:
count me in Jim.
12:25:51 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
till the time comes… (oops!)
12:26:17 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
I’d ejoy that too
12:26:22 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
me too.
12:26:23 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Yes, please come back to this group!!!
12:27:23 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:27:35 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:
yeah!!
12:27:36 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
Woot woot
12:27:46 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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