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11:01:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   So glad you’re here!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:01:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Day 866 of Humanity Rising

11:03:39 From Jojo Mehta to Host and Panelists:

   Hi all - my profuse apologies just got stuck in insane traffic on way back to the office…

11:04:34 From Jojo Mehta to Host and Panelists:

   But ready to go when you are.  Just awful what is going on in Gaza.

11:06:00 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   THANK YOU HUMANITY RISING!  For this Important theme today, especially since both ecocide and genocide are deeply and profoundly linked.  Both are extreme horrific human moral failures, and create only atrocities and "crimes against humanity and our Mother Earth.  Can we?  Will we? do better in time for our collective survival?  www.Geoengineering.org

11:06:27 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   I listen to this day after day, and still cannot grasp it!

11:06:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   http://geoengineering.org

11:08:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   A Stain on Humanity.

11:09:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Instigating it. The way I hear it…

11:09:49 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Deeply appreciate your authentic share Barbro.  These truths are profoundly disturbing, depressing, and a horrific assault against what it means to be truly human.  Speechless in Seattle.  Shameful to be an American.  😡🌍🥵

11:09:55 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   @Shannon - the link above does not work

11:10:07 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   What did the “intelligence specialist” Aaron Bushnell know that we don’t about what the US is doing to the Palestinians? — that caused him to self-immolate.

11:10:12 From Bruce Robertson to Everyone:

   What you have said needed to be said.  Thank you Jim.

11:10:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   It was provided by Kim; I just made it active. Kim, can you help?

11:10:45 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   If a company produces tonnes of military equipment clearly, they intend people should be killed, and are providing the means to do so.  Every worker takes part in that intention!

11:10:57 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   but somehow we are standing by

11:11:11 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim, for expressing so eloquently what so many of us are feeling.

11:11:59 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   Stop producing bullets - empty equipment!

11:12:01 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   Biden has become our war president. Is he beholding to the US Jewish lobby - wanting their votes?

11:12:26 From Jojo Mehta to Host and Panelists:

   Let me know when you want me to switch on video…

11:13:12 From rosemary fitzpatrick to Host and Panelists:

   Yes /cathy, and feel desperately we should be DOING something - how can we mobilise the mothers and grandmothers to rise up and say :  NO MORE WAR……..

11:13:31 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   JIM please be careful using the word 'Isreali's' it is the Netanyahu and his government. Do not lump the people of the country in this.... just like the people of Gaza are not all Hamas

11:13:35 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Corrected link, for the "weaponization of weather"  Excellent information with extensive research and pictures. www.GeoenginerringWatch.org 100% intentional global ecocide.  Please forward widely.

11:13:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Welcome, Jojo! Thank you so much for your good work!

11:14:20 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   I con’t think its the votes as  but more about the money of AIPAC and the considerable influence of certain very wealthy members of the 1%.  Chances are that Biden is overly influenced by the pro-Israeli government people around him.

11:15:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kim, thanks… http://geoengineeringWatch.org… I see you put a double r instead of a double e… and didn’t make it an active link. I hope this one works.

11:15:28 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Anyone who promotes/funds industrialized warfare is clearly not caring about the earth.

11:16:38 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   I’m sorry but it IS the Israelis along with Netanyahu. Over 60% believe he is not being ruthless enough. Less than 2% are against the war. I will be talking about this tomorrow.

11:17:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim. It’s hard to talk about, I know. It’s hard to hear.

11:17:41 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   We have Hillary Clinton, when Sec'y State, sold fracking to the world.  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron/#:~:text=Under%20her%20leadership%2C%20the%20State,energy%20resources%20as%20a%20cudgel.

11:17:53 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Brilliant 5 year old wisdom!  Simple, clear, obvious!  A wonderful example of "eldership wisdom" within our youth!!!🥰🌍😇

11:18:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   It would be wonderful to get someone from Mother Jones to come to speak to us, Jim.

11:22:46 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   I was at the Climate Conference at Findhorn in 2019 when Polly died. This is a brilliant initiative JoJo. Thank you.

11:23:18 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   "No record of a vote" is evidence of classic Disaster Capitalism!  Four critical questions to ask, to illuminate all global destruction:  1) Who is creating the problem/destruction?  2) Who is controlling the narrative? 3) Who is offering the solutions?  4) Follow the money trail.  Who benefits?🌍🌍🌍

11:24:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   A martyr to the cause… Polly Higgins.

11:27:50 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   A woman who had incredible influence on drawing attention to the harmful effects of fracking and other insidious chemicals was Theo Colburn. Read about her work at https://endocrinedisruption.org/about-tedx/theo-colborn-ph.d.-president/

11:28:27 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   Do you have the name if those Swedish politicians? I want to get in touch with them.

11:28:50 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   Phillips Sands is such a star in International law. Well done for getting his support.

11:28:58 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   ANSWER: When Danny Sheehan bilocates to do the legal matters needed  to do this AND continue the work with the Disclosure … 🙂

11:29:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   yup

11:29:53 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   yes

11:29:59 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Great point, Kurt.

11:31:18 From Anna Barker to Host and Panelists:

   Print is too tiny!

   Please put into chat 💬

   I want some as 📇 business cards, too!  👍🤗😍

11:34:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   oilsands

11:35:03 From judith to Host and Panelists:

   THANK YOU SO, SO, MUCH for this, the most important topic of all....human nature's denial of our life source, Mother Nature

11:35:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   war

11:35:52 From judith to Everyone:

   sorry, previous should have been to all about human nature's denial of our life source, Mother Nature...

11:36:58 From Diane. to Everyone:

   It's all about values! All sorts of laws already exist but - they mean nothing. We have to encourage caring (being 'helpful') so that filling the oceans and rivers with plastic and sewage is so bad people feel ashamed when it happens! (Just arrived - apologies if this is our of place)

11:37:11 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Ecocide equates to Humanicide as we are destroying our own ability to live

11:37:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good to have you with us, Diane. Not out of place.

11:37:50 From Diane. to Everyone:

   People ARE starting to care!!

11:38:23 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   Solid arguments and high level work. Grateful Jo Jo.

11:38:46 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Thanks Shannon - so glad HR (and both of us) (and Jojo) are here xxxxx

11:39:30 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Mr Z is asking for weapons - part of the problem!!

11:39:31 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Landmines are certainly part of that!

11:39:46 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Geoengineering is "intentional weatherization of the weather" as an dual act of ecocide and genocide.  Started during Vietnam War, and President Johnson (LBJ) declared publicly: "Those who control the weather, will control the world."  Our US tax dollars pay for it all, which is clearly a "crime against humanity" by our very own US military.  Learn about it, and decide for yourself.  Knowledge is POWER - when used for the good of all, to enhance human and ecological THRIVING.

11:40:23 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Brilliant Kim!!

11:40:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Kim…

11:40:42 From judith to Everyone:

   wow..thank you, so well articulated, bravo JoJo!

11:40:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Beautiful JoJo

11:41:07 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Fabulous work, Jojo! Thanks for the overview.

11:41:28 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:

   Thank you nice presentation .

11:41:47 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   So clear and informative JoJo. Tempered, not reactionary and solid with facts,

11:41:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Exxon Valdez

11:41:57 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   I commend the documentary Common Ground. https://commongroundfilm.org/

11:42:10 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Fantastic Jojo - we need to stop pointing fingers too - focus on solutions!!

11:42:14 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   👍@Kat - YES!

11:42:17 From judith to Everyone:

   what about the toll that tall tech takes....what we are all doing in this valuable moment?

11:42:24 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   palm oil

11:42:43 From judith to Everyone:

   that was supposed to be all tech....not least AI?

11:42:48 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   How would this impact plastic refuse?

11:43:05 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   THANK YOU Jojo!😇 for your fabulous global social activism!  Your passion, dedication, and brilliant actions are profoundly appreciated!       💚🌲🌍

11:44:44 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   The EU has passed the law for "nature restoration." Watered down from it's initial proposal but never the less now on the books.

11:44:46 From judith to Everyone:

   CEO's asking for this! - here's to more of that!

11:44:51 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Amazing Jojo!! When better rules are in place, the baddies will step back/drop away!!!

11:45:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   The people involved in ecocide do not necessarily condone it… thank you for reminding us of that

11:45:10 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   https://environment.ec.europa.eu/topics/nature-and-biodiversity/nature-restoration-law_en

11:45:27 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Ooooh!! A shift of consciousness!!!

11:45:40 From Clare Rosenfield to Everyone:

   I wonder what has happened in the Chevron case where the lawyer instead of being able to hold them accountable in Ecuador, was forced on house arrest and fined.  What is the outcome now of that case?

11:45:47 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Human beings thinking!! Can you imagine!!!

11:46:05 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Yes Clare........what is his name again?

11:46:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   First human moral mandate:  DO NO HARM!!!  In all aspects of life.  So simple, clear, and trustworthy.🌲🌍💚

11:47:20 From Clare Rosenfield to Everyone:

   Stephen ………   I'm trying to think of his last name.

11:47:23 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   good point Jim!

11:47:50 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   @Clare - Stephen Donziger https://www.freedonziger.com/

11:48:00 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Steven Donziger - Chevron guy!

11:49:35 From Diane. to Everyone:

   And sometimes the people on the ground themselves are chopping trees (for example) - we need clever humans to create solutions - hence - Humanity Rising!!!

11:49:42 From Clare Rosenfield to Everyone:

   Yes, I just googled it. Steven Robert DonzigerI I just read that an Ecuadorian court asked Chevron to pay $18 billion that later was reduced to $9.5 billion

11:49:45 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes!  Diane!  HUMAN THINKING IS WELCOME!!!  Our western mindset is 100% immersed in the DIS-EASE OF SEPARATENESS FROM CREATOR, our Mother, our HOME, our DIVINE ESSENCE.

11:50:05 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   would Round-up, as a product, be considered a crime?

11:50:26 From Clare Rosenfield to Everyone:

   I agree that Round Up is Ecocide.

11:50:30 From Diane. to Everyone:

   We're supposed to be stewards...... Part of nature!!

11:50:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   EU extended the use of glyphosate for another 10 years.

11:50:51 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   I know - criminal

11:50:54 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Roberto - yes!!

11:51:35 From Clare Rosenfield to Everyone:

   I'm now trying to get someone to turn my verse narrative into a script to be acted out--The Call of Mother Earth: How a Being of Light Draws Forth Humanity's Response.

11:51:43 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   PREVENTING ECOCIDE IS VITAL: One of the branches of the Peace Lab’s wheel of co-creation is the ENVIRONMENT. Our mutual Mother’s communication for all her Relations through the Kogi. https://youtu.be/Fzv79qnTL74?si=vPOdauN_6BLSbv64.

   

   PLEASE, check out the efforts of the UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION FOR HOLISTIC DESIGN.They are an educational re-enculturation processes teem. It has a Socio-Economical/environmental/spiritual transition plan to get us back as nature. https://www.ufhd.ca.

   

   There is an Environmental friendly and PeaceMaking economic form? Yes. This solves the Equity/Equality issues for common people and our quality of life. Donut Economics for Quality Living for All.

   How the Dutch are reshaping their post-pandemic economy - BBC REEL 6.5 minutes

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=Ziw-wK03TSw&feature=emb_logo

11:51:51 From judith to Everyone:

   it's the system, we're all conditioned by,  system change  -- the ease and speed of life today that we all buy into, inevitably we are complicit within it...yes we all have responsibility...where and how we spend and choose what we do.....

11:51:52 From Diane. to Everyone:

   So stop walking in supermarkets - hard but - just a habit!!

11:52:09 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Great question Roberto.  YES! is the answer, and Monsanto has been repeatedly sued over this, and continues to DESTROY humans, farms, land, soil, and food, etc.  Law suits are a great start, yet do NOT STOP THE ONGOING DAMAGE.

11:52:46 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Yes!! The EU is guilty!!

11:53:07 From Diane. to Everyone:

   But the people can stop buying anything wiht glyphosate!!

11:53:11 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   You can’t be guilty in law if there is no law against the act

11:53:16 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   discouraging

11:53:23 From Diane. to Everyone:

   "Read the labels" as they say!!!

11:53:35 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   There is a difference between moral wrong and legal wrong

11:53:59 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Thank you Kathryn!! And the law is an ss

11:54:05 From Diane. to Everyone:

   ass

11:54:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   We can SAY it’s ecocide but it is not legally true.

11:54:16 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   LOL Yes

11:54:17 From Diane. to Everyone:

   For many years we knew that!!

11:54:41 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Speaking of herbicides see the Fascinating discussion and incredible INformation on all of life's healthy systems

   

   13 minutes,The ROOT CAUSE Of Disease Making Everyone Sick & UNHEALTHY | Zach Bush & Dr. Chatterjee  https://youtu.be/okwGs-BIlss?si=cg6xHYXfrBk58kGS   

   

   1:20 minutes.

   Revealing the Root Causes of Modern Illness | Zach Bush & Josh Axe, https://youtu.be/g6mKMwwOfBc?si=NCBrJ7KhvQ54NB6P

   

   Dr. Zach Bush is an expert on the human microbiome and its role in health, disease, and food systems. His groundbreaking research uncovers the interconnectedness between environmental toxins, loss of biodiversity, and the rise of chronic illness.

11:54:48 From anne de Lovinfosse to Host and Panelists:

   Kim, did you watch the february 15 of conversation of Catherine Austin Fitts  with Dane Wigington :Are the skies poisoning us”on

11:54:50 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   yes, we've known all this for so many years

11:55:01 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   I have to go, so sad...

11:55:08 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   She’s saying that you can’t be guilty of a law that doesn’t exist.

11:55:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Jojo, thank you SO much for the work you’re doing to make this a law.

11:55:31 From judith to Everyone:

   Satish Kumar talking about the destruction of soil, 50 years ago..and did we listen then?

11:55:50 From Diane. to Everyone:

   So glad that in the UK at least we have m any farmers who understand and play with 'rewilding'!!

11:56:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   YES

11:56:33 From Elke Riesterer to Host and Panelists:

   Ecocide it is!

11:56:41 From SuzyKCoach@gmail.com  Specialized-Systems.com to Everyone:

   I am appalled and of course we heard very little about this EU decision…one more step toward the 6th extinction, increased illness worldwide and the soil completely saturated. I often find myself singing that song from the 60’s We’re On The Eve Of Destruction..beyond tragic.

11:56:57 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   YES!!! JIM! YES! YES! Superb job holding down your brilliant MORAL point.  Time and time again, the law does NOT STOP ONGOING DESTRUCTION of genocide and ecocide. Fines instead of responsibility!  😡🥵😎

11:57:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good song, Suzy.

11:57:12 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   https://tube.solari.com/videos/021524_financial_rebellion

11:57:13 From Diane. to Everyone:

   We want them to think - 'them'? The companies. And as long as companies are in charge, we go for 'profit'.

11:58:00 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Or - since HR we have B Corporations (or at least the knowledge of them) so - we can see who to support!

11:58:53 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Yes like creating the law gives motivation for miners to change their operations to be compliant so not to be legally liable.  Similar to the medical practitioners changing their inclusion of integrative modalities to not lose dollars.  Not a moral compass change, but financial and legal consequences create change

11:59:20 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Yes Jojo - we need to make it personal!!

11:59:23 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   Kim did you watch the tube above from solari : discussion of weather geoengeneering by catherine Austin Fitts  on february 15..she discuss the money trail and international agreements?

11:59:55 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   I've been watching geoengineering from my back yard in CA.  Wake up to a blue sky that turns hazy quickly. They try to make it look like clouds.  It's like the U.S., people need to be informed about the truth . . . but then look at Gaza.  Sorry, discouraged about this because it's been going on for so long . . . how long are we going to wait.  Can we even still save the planet.

12:00:41 From Diane. to Everyone:

   At the moment XR are going to insurance companies as - stop insuring fossil fuels!!

12:00:52 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   Well done for explaining the relevance to criminal law Jo Jo.

12:01:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Diane, good to know. More power to them.

12:01:36 From Diane. to Everyone:

   At least somebody is standing up for a better way!!

12:01:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   I believe that the real problem is that neither god nor Satan creates laws. It’s people and people often side with enriching themselves and their friends.

12:01:46 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   At the same time, I understand that solutions for cleaning up nuclear pollution exists but blocked by political will and dollars to apply the solutions already available

12:02:23 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   Yes, I herald those who are still trying.  Bless them!!

12:03:03 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Yes Stan, humans and greed are the bottom line (at the moment). Hopefully we're heading for helpful ways!!

12:03:31 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   What are we doing about the regulations that are not being followed now, let alone new laws.

12:03:50 From Lynn Brodlie to Everyone:

   Yes, the morally wrong actions that continue like the example Shannon gave above about glyphosate; is why the Kogi Prophecy: Earth Mother message is so important. https://thefountain.earth/mother/                      this is the link to this four minute powerful video.

12:04:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

                  Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                          You can join the After Chat here:       

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                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

12:04:11 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Ask AI about RANKED CHOICE VOTING. It is vital to having America to get to be MORE Representative than the simple 2 Party System. call me it us want to talk about it. Kurt K

   

   Here’s a gift of BEING A PEACEMAKER eBook shares a variety of practices that people CAN apply in theIr life… Spread the eBook. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OzwiiZCI_CdYLVKiZvSnUlUV1greo5zC6jxqF17Vb8E/edit?usp=sharing. Lets not only collaborate, we can coagulate and synergize into an unstoppable force for Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.

12:05:27 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Thank goodness movement is happening. (And I have to go lol)

12:05:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Bye Diane…. Sigh.

12:06:06 From Diane. to Everyone:

   ❤️ xxxxx

12:06:57 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   There are solutions that seem to be hidden about free technology, ET reverse engineering etc…that are suppressed …I believe that this is part of the solution and problem …And, the current financial structure WILL NOT let this happen

12:07:03 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Jojo -- lots of really good information.  And I think you might be a little bit more effective if you could learn to speak a little bit more slowly.  It can be a lot to process, and it feels a little bit like being talked at rather than talked with.  When you have folks on your side it may not matter, but when you have folks that are not already convinced, it might make a difference.

12:07:39 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   A good idea is promoted in the Story of Solutions https://www.storyofstuff.org/movies/the-story-of-solutions/

12:07:44 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Paul Powesland - barrister for nature in UK!!

12:08:10 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Charry, I personally like fast talkers lol.... I love the passion

12:08:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I love the ability to change the speed of playback when listening to the recording.

12:09:40 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   I love the fast talk too. She knows her stuff and talking with Policy makers that want the arguments fast, clear and solid. She has all that.

12:10:23 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   Thanks Stan..I saved the link

12:10:36 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Such an interesting discussion, so significant! Thank you!

12:10:49 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Thanks Jojo!!!

12:10:59 From judith to Everyone:

   keep it up JoJo

12:11:05 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

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                  Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

12:11:08 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   GO Jojo GO

12:11:08 From Sue Hall to Everyone:

   Thanks JoJo

12:11:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I hope you can join us in the AfterChat

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