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15:10:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : This is the CiCoLab Chat 4_26_21
15:10:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : This is the CiCoLab Chat 4_26_21


15:11:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I’m collecting this chat for my use as publisher of the website <nowiki>http://othernetworks.org</nowiki>
15:11:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I’m collecting this chat for my use as publisher of the website ::http://othernetworks.org::


15:12:59 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : I'm on an iPad, so I do not have the rename option without leaving the meeting.
15:12:59 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : I'm on an iPad, so I do not have the rename option without leaving the meeting.


15:13:38 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : <nowiki>https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit</nowiki>
15:13:38 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::


15:13:52 From Charlotte Pierce to Everyone : Just heads up I'll need to head out at 3:55 for a meet, will try to return
15:13:52 From Charlotte Pierce to Everyone : Just heads up I'll need to head out at 3:55 for a meet, will try to return
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15:17:11 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : Introductions in the breakout rooms...?
15:17:11 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : Introductions in the breakout rooms...?


15:19:12 From Charlotte Pierce she/her to Everyone : Charlotte Pierce, publisher & podcaster, <nowiki>https://piercepress.com</nowiki>, <nowiki>https://peeragogy.org</nowiki> - have visited in the OGM and Cicolab spaces, among others.
15:19:12 From Charlotte Pierce she/her to Everyone : Charlotte Pierce, publisher & podcaster, ::https://piercepress.com::, ::https://peeragogy.org:: - have visited in the OGM and Cicolab spaces, among others.


15:20:08 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : <nowiki>https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit</nowiki>
15:20:08 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::


15:20:20 From Randallb to Everyone : I'm Randall.  Work in high tech.  From the lower 9th ward of New Orleans, LA(NOLA) in the USA. been involved with D&I efforts for > 20 years
15:20:20 From Randallb to Everyone : I'm Randall.  Work in high tech.  From the lower 9th ward of New Orleans, LA(NOLA) in the USA. been involved with D&I efforts for > 20 years
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15:22:50 From Erika Pajovic she/her to Everyone : I am Erika.  I work in marketing communications and I believe we are all responsible for building a worlds better than we found it
15:22:50 From Erika Pajovic she/her to Everyone : I am Erika.  I work in marketing communications and I believe we are all responsible for building a worlds better than we found it


15:22:50 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : the miro link is in the quick links doc, <nowiki>https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit</nowiki>
15:22:50 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : the miro link is in the quick links doc, ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::


15:22:53 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : <nowiki>https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/</nowiki>
15:22:53 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : ::https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/::


15:22:54 From Randallb to Everyone : miro link is the first link in the doc.
15:22:54 From Randallb to Everyone : miro link is the first link in the doc.
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15:26:06 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : I’m Toni Blackman - artist and hip hop ambassador. I’m the first US HIP HOP Ambassador, have traveled around the world speaking out hip hop music and culture and performing, and currently focusing on my Hip Hop Meditation and Mindfulness Music. I teach my signature Cypher Workshop for organizations, companies and colleges. I coach poets, rappers and speakers. I believe in using art/music to transform ourselves and our worlds.
15:26:06 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : I’m Toni Blackman - artist and hip hop ambassador. I’m the first US HIP HOP Ambassador, have traveled around the world speaking out hip hop music and culture and performing, and currently focusing on my Hip Hop Meditation and Mindfulness Music. I teach my signature Cypher Workshop for organizations, companies and colleges. I coach poets, rappers and speakers. I believe in using art/music to transform ourselves and our worlds.


15:39:41 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : <nowiki>https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/</nowiki>
15:39:41 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : ::https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/::


15:41:22 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : I think it got mislabelled, the original sticky said what does it "sound" like
15:41:22 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : I think it got mislabelled, the original sticky said what does it "sound" like
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15:44:27 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Here’s the article points I just shared. There is another article by a younger Black girl. I am searching for it.
15:44:27 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Here’s the article points I just shared. There is another article by a younger Black girl. I am searching for it.


15:44:29 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : <nowiki>https://www.ravishly.com/10-questions-youve-always-wanted-ask-your-black-friend</nowiki>
15:44:29 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : ::https://www.ravishly.com/10-questions-youve-always-wanted-ask-your-black-friend::


15:44:41 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : @Toni, thank you!
15:44:41 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : @Toni, thank you!
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15:46:40 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : it can go the other way, too -- sometimes asking comes out being aggressive

"Stop Asking Black People If You Can Touch Their Hair"
15:46:40 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : it can go the other way, too -- sometimes asking comes out being aggressive

"Stop Asking Black People If You Can Touch Their Hair"


<nowiki>https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2020/01/08/stop-asking-black-people-if-you-can-touch-their-hair/

</nowiki>"What is Microaggression? The 14 Things Not to say to Black People"
::https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2020/01/08/stop-asking-black-people-if-you-can-touch-their-hair/

::"What is Microaggression? The 14 Things Not to say to Black People"


<nowiki>https://www.articulately.co.uk/post/what-is-microaggression-the-14-things-not-to-say-to-black-people</nowiki>
::https://www.articulately.co.uk/post/what-is-microaggression-the-14-things-not-to-say-to-black-people::


15:50:12 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Ciaran WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE Ques: Is Ericka the only person answering questions? Are there others answering questions?
15:50:12 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Ciaran WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE Ques: Is Ericka the only person answering questions? Are there others answering questions?
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16:33:21 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Some inside about group work can be gained from this talk about “Super
16:33:21 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Some inside about group work can be gained from this talk about “Super


16:33:42 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Super Chickens — <nowiki>https://wikidelphia.org/Margaret_Heffernan:_Forget_the_superchicken_pecking_order</nowiki>
16:33:42 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Super Chickens — ::https://wikidelphia.org/Margaret_Heffernan:_Forget_the_superchicken_pecking_order::


16:43:12 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Helena Norberg-Hodge - Ancient Futures: Learning from Ladakh
16:43:12 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Helena Norberg-Hodge - Ancient Futures: Learning from Ladakh


16:44:38 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Elinor Ostrom - <nowiki>https://wikidelphia.org/Elinor_Ostrom_and_the_Common_Pool_Resource</nowiki>
16:44:38 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Elinor Ostrom - ::https://wikidelphia.org/Elinor_Ostrom_and_the_Common_Pool_Resource::


16:45:31 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Notes from the “Build” group
16:45:31 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Notes from the “Build” group
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• Take care of your bodies - move, stretch, breathe, sing, etc
• Take care of your bodies - move, stretch, breathe, sing, etc


16:53:03 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Ray Dalio - <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbsVbFAczg</nowiki> How to build a company where the best ideas win | Ray Dalio
16:53:03 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Ray Dalio - ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbsVbFAczg:: How to build a company where the best ideas win | Ray Dalio


16:56:22 From Azeez Hamzat (he/him) to Everyone : Oh my, we just got pulled back. I was enjoying the conversation with @Ken Homer and @Stanley Pokras. Hats off to you,Seniors
16:56:22 From Azeez Hamzat (he/him) to Everyone : Oh my, we just got pulled back. I was enjoying the conversation with @Ken Homer and @Stanley Pokras. Hats off to you,Seniors

Revision as of 03:39, 24 May 2021

15:10:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : This is the CiCoLab Chat 4_26_21

15:11:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I’m collecting this chat for my use as publisher of the website ::http://othernetworks.org::

15:12:59 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : I'm on an iPad, so I do not have the rename option without leaving the meeting.

15:13:38 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::

15:13:52 From Charlotte Pierce to Everyone : Just heads up I'll need to head out at 3:55 for a meet, will try to return

15:14:18 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : @Stanley - may I suggest that you request permission from everyone to use the chat before announcing that you will be publishing it externally?

15:15:27 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : @Ken, not that I necessarily disagree, but the practical effect of that request is that Stanley should not publish the chat externally.

15:15:47 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : since the meeting is recorded and published, do we need to check with all participants about the chat?

15:16:18 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : (just a question, not with an intention of pushing the answer one way or another)

15:16:25 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : 28

15:16:56 From Azeez A. HAMZAT to Everyone : I need to head out now. I will be back soon

15:17:10 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : @Pete - personally, I am okay with being asked to publish the chat externally. But I would not assume that everyone feels that way… Hence my request. And if there are those who object, then it should not be published externally…

15:17:11 From Karyemaitre Aliffe MD to Everyone : Introductions in the breakout rooms...?

15:19:12 From Charlotte Pierce she/her to Everyone : Charlotte Pierce, publisher & podcaster, ::https://piercepress.com::, ::https://peeragogy.org:: - have visited in the OGM and Cicolab spaces, among others.

15:20:08 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::

15:20:20 From Randallb to Everyone : I'm Randall.  Work in high tech.  From the lower 9th ward of New Orleans, LA(NOLA) in the USA. been involved with D&I efforts for > 20 years

15:20:55 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : I’m a networking theorist and publisher of the local Wiki called Wikidelphia.org serving Philadelphia PA USA and the wiki OtherNetworks.org my effort to index the world.

15:21:08 From charles blass (he/him) to Everyone : cb — cofounder cicolab — in kids holiday mode tonight, on and off cam, delighted to welcome everyone!!! excited at the ominous unknown before us

15:21:10 From Ukpeme Okon to Everyone : Greetings. Thanks for inviting me here, Lauren. I am an Ambassador for Peace, lawyer, author, musician, podcaster, and so on.

15:21:53 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Am I the only one who can’t find the Miro link?

15:22:08 From James Desmond. to Everyone : Thanks Janen, hi all.

15:22:11 From Randallb to Everyone : i can't find the miro link either

15:22:50 From Erika Pajovic she/her to Everyone : I am Erika.  I work in marketing communications and I believe we are all responsible for building a worlds better than we found it

15:22:50 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : the miro link is in the quick links doc, ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bHsr6l_d6Nv81Wc5bTpvr6FrYZcYBI7FrddS6nwgVo/edit::

15:22:53 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : ::https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/::

15:22:54 From Randallb to Everyone : miro link is the first link in the doc.

15:22:58 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Thanks!

15:23:00 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : @Ken I’m not going to publish this chat. I capture it for my use in finding people to talk with for OtherNetworks.

15:23:06 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : Hi my name is Ximena I am Mexican I was invited by Jamen, I am part of the core team of www.theconversation.cc I am an interpreter and translator, tanathologyst and holystic healer, I am here to serve with whatever expertise I can bring to the table, help people with their griefs, I am here in service for humanity.Nice to meet you all.

15:23:09 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Thanks Stan!

15:23:26 From Rob Tyrie, he/him to Everyone : I am Rob. I am an :  ideator , thinker, maker , doer. co-founder of grey swan guild, serial high tech entrepreneur. a connector. entj. Jester. Trickster.

15:23:38 From Randallb to Everyone : i thougtht we were doing intro's in the chat

15:24:50 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : I’m Ken Homer - living in San Rafael, CA. The question underlying all my work is how can we be smarter together? My work focuses on helping people to collaborate more effectively in service to a healthier, saner, more flourishing world.

15:26:06 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : I’m Toni Blackman - artist and hip hop ambassador. I’m the first US HIP HOP Ambassador, have traveled around the world speaking out hip hop music and culture and performing, and currently focusing on my Hip Hop Meditation and Mindfulness Music. I teach my signature Cypher Workshop for organizations, companies and colleges. I coach poets, rappers and speakers. I believe in using art/music to transform ourselves and our worlds.

15:39:41 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : ::https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lIYxbSE=/::

15:41:22 From Robert Best (he/him) to Everyone : I think it got mislabelled, the original sticky said what does it "sound" like

15:44:27 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Here’s the article points I just shared. There is another article by a younger Black girl. I am searching for it.

15:44:29 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : ::https://www.ravishly.com/10-questions-youve-always-wanted-ask-your-black-friend::

15:44:41 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : @Toni, thank you!

15:45:51 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : yes Tony thank you for the precise guide about the questions he is been asked maybe we can discuss ones and figure out together what we think about it.

15:46:02 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Wow

15:46:11 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : she

15:46:14 From Randallb to Everyone : i've lost audio

15:46:14 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : not he

15:46:20 From Randallb to Everyone : networking issues?

15:46:23 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Randall, you were frozen a long time

15:46:31 From Randallb to Everyone : :-(

15:46:33 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Then your voice came…in and out

15:46:40 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : it can go the other way, too -- sometimes asking comes out being aggressive

"Stop Asking Black People If You Can Touch Their Hair"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2020/01/08/stop-asking-black-people-if-you-can-touch-their-hair/

::"What is Microaggression? The 14 Things Not to say to Black People"
https://www.articulately.co.uk/post/what-is-microaggression-the-14-things-not-to-say-to-black-people::

15:50:12 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Ciaran WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE Ques: Is Ericka the only person answering questions? Are there others answering questions?

16:08:24 From Erik H to Everyone : Erika's point that this was the first time we have tried  this and that we will likely do it much better next time is worth taking on board too.

16:09:01 From she/Ximena Holguin to Everyone : May need to leave , Will think about tthe exercise and share my experience when being in the breakout room and hearing what little black girls think when sked that out of place questions.

16:10:46 From Wendy McLean (she / her) to Everyone : I like those ideas James, a lot!

16:11:53 From charles blass (he/him) to Everyone : fully agree stan!!!

16:12:10 From Erika Pajovic she/her to Everyone : I agree with this

16:14:54 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Only seeing one set of questions from Charlotte… was there another entry?

16:15:14 From Pete Kaminski he/him to Everyone : i'm full up, i'm going to drop. thanks all, i appreciate seeing everybody!

16:18:03 From Mark Carranza (dude/bro) to Everyone : Need to leave now. Thanks all!

16:18:10 From Ciaran Moore he/him to Everyone : Got to go to another call now but thank you guys :) and good luck to Erika, I’m excited to see where this goes..

16:19:41 From Judith Benham to Everyone : I need to leave; will try to return.

16:20:28 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : What are you passionately confused about

16:21:35 From Trisha Callella (she/her) to Everyone : I have a meeting in 8 minutes, so I won’t be able to join. Sorry. Love this idea!

16:21:37 From Ras Moshe Burnett (he/him) to Everyone : Greetings. Ras Moshe Burnett-Jazz Musician-Saxophonist-Educator-Activist from Brooklyn.

16:31:37 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Collective intelligence is when no one is trying to beat each other with knowledge, but when we engage in dialogue in order to make better decisions.

16:33:21 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Some inside about group work can be gained from this talk about “Super

16:33:42 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Super Chickens — ::https://wikidelphia.org/Margaret_Heffernan:_Forget_the_superchicken_pecking_order::

16:43:12 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Helena Norberg-Hodge - Ancient Futures: Learning from Ladakh

16:44:38 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Elinor Ostrom - ::https://wikidelphia.org/Elinor_Ostrom_and_the_Common_Pool_Resource::

16:45:31 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Notes from the “Build” group

Create the conditions that foster the emergence of collective intelligence (CI)

• Practice being aware of the impact of your speaking on the listeners present

• Ensure that every one has the opportunity to speak and contribute

• Add women to the group

• Engage the practice of dialogue

• Work to understand what is important

• Notice when you get defensive and breathe through the challenge to stay open to ideas that challenge your views

• Create an hospitable space for people to meet

• Get all the voices in the room

• Slow the conversation down

• Listen for insights, pattens, and deeper meanings

• Practice “commons sense” ensure that the whole is taken care of within sacrifice any individuals - see Ostrom’s Nobel Prize winning work for insights on how this is practiced

• Make collective knowledge visible

• Take care of your bodies - move, stretch, breathe, sing, etc

16:53:03 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : Ray Dalio - ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbsVbFAczg:: How to build a company where the best ideas win | Ray Dalio

16:56:22 From Azeez Hamzat (he/him) to Everyone : Oh my, we just got pulled back. I was enjoying the conversation with @Ken Homer and @Stanley Pokras. Hats off to you,Seniors

16:56:46 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Thanks Azeez!

16:57:44 From Monica Wilson to Everyone : I have to go get my shot. Thanks everyone!

16:57:52 From Ken Homer • he/him • San Rafael, CA to Everyone : Good luck!

16:57:54 From Lauren Nignon she/her to Everyone : Bye Monica!

16:58:01 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Happy Vaxin

17:03:45 From Toni Blackman she/her to Everyone : Hey I’m here but away! Repairman here.

17:07:42 From charles blass (he/him) to Everyone : baiting questions

17:08:52 From Marco Elstermann to Everyone : Great meeting, Sorry can't stay today. Have another commitment.

17:18:59 From Jamen Shively he/him to Everyone : Back in a few . . . .

17:19:00 From Stanley Pokras (he/him) to Everyone : I too need to go. I wonder if Erika would like to hear from people who might want to help out?

17:19:39 From Erika Pajovic she/her to Everyone : erikapajovic@gmail.com