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00:04:19    Cathy:    is jim coming

00:04:33    Shannon McArthur:    Yes, I heard!!!

00:05:18    Franka Strietzel:    Who received that message?

00:05:21    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Hi Everyone!

00:05:27    Shannon McArthur:    Hi, Franka!!

00:05:33    Stanley Pokras:    This is the AfterChat for Day 867

00:05:33    Franka Strietzel:    „She“?

00:05:38    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Who is Vasila(?)

00:06:10    Shannon McArthur:    Jim is HERE!!!

00:06:36    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    FRANKA…. Yeah. 🙂

00:06:58    Charry Stover:    You were great!

00:07:01    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Hi Jim!! 👍🏼

00:07:07    Hyacinth Oesterlin:    VASSULA RYDÉN

00:08:22    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Alexander Mercouris

00:08:30    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks, Tina!!

00:08:50    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    Check out END POLITICS NOW, ::https://endpoliticsnow.com::.  LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS!

00:08:51    Dai (David):    It wasn't in the chat, but there were Welsh tears. Da iawn (well done / bravo) Jim

00:09:16    Shannon McArthur:    Thank you, David, for sharing.

00:10:15    Bob Hayes:    Alexander Mercouris

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCwGpHa6rMLjSSCBlckm5khw::

00:10:34    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Thanks, Tina!!"

'Welcome, Shannon! I just followed him on X.

00:10:55    Charry Stover:    Shannon, thank you so much for asking the question about sources, because when I spread the information that Jim gives us, I am always asked about his sources.

00:11:15    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "Shannon, thank you s..."

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00:12:24    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Yes! #FreeAssange!

00:12:30    Hyacinth Oesterlin:    there is also Norman Finkelstein

00:13:19    Stanley Pokras:    The CHAT from Humanity Rising is now available ::https://othernetworks.org/Day867HRChat::

00:14:10    Bob Hayes:    ::https://www.chrislhedges.com/about::

00:14:38    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    JULIAN IS YELLING OUT, THE BRITISH ARE COMING!

00:14:59    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Yes! Weapons of Mass Distraction!

00:15:32    Dai (David):    Replying to "Thank you, David, fo..."

Jim has a gift for sure. I saw you on the course btw!

00:15:52    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "Thank you, David, fo..."

I was so pleased to be there; saw you too!

00:17:28    Shannon McArthur:    If you find your mic turned off without your turning it off, it was me. I use the power I have, as cohost, to limit interference. I beg your forgiveness.

00:18:06    Bob Hayes:    ::https://www.freeassange.net/::

00:21:52    Tricia Fortina:    Claire Daly???

00:22:13    Shannon McArthur:    I think it’s Clare Daly

00:22:30    Rachael Bliss:    May be Daley?

00:22:31    Elizabeth Haines:    Jim, what is the title of the NYT article about CIA withdrawing from Ukraine???

00:22:55    Bob Hayes:    Watch "MEP Clare Daly-  speech from 27 Feb" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/qrKt-JiPF2A?si=JuaAzYkCUO3RWKwP::

00:23:10    Mark Babson:    Thank you all for being a part of this remarkable forum! Stay well

00:23:23    Shannon McArthur:    Good to have you with us, Mark

00:23:29    Rachael Bliss:    But MIC needs its money

00:23:32    Hyacinth Oesterlin:    She speaks very forcefully

00:23:51    Tricia Fortina:    ::https://news.yahoo.com/spy-war-cia-secretly-helps-172754832.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANGfeUbt0tLHU9pKKZVdvIJyYOBjb9BHBDrbxQL0fQHVu7dNbJ0ZYwsVORoeVd462tKRMLkhrPoY6j4rhdOVtpOjHMNHZ0SAREOrQpVpqfDyB8aJbpRfx7mHwkSXLTLKvKnJmdfBIRgxaxShJgQu-_otBFgUVDz51ndlBw8Zksov&guccounter=2::

00:25:35    Tricia Fortina:    The above is the New York Times article

The New York Times

The Spy War: How the CIA Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

00:25:39    Stanley Pokras:    Project for the New American Century

https://othernetworks.org/Project_for_the_New_American_Century::

00:25:43    Bob Hayes:    Watch "Clare Daly - Militarisation and the Drive to War - Full Speech" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/HNLRfmFpzM0?si=oVoTxsZyxNPYvTrf::

00:25:55    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks, Bob!

00:27:08    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    He’s a comedian.

00:27:12    Charry Stover:    All those young girls with no men to marry.

00:28:36    Shannon McArthur:    Sorry, Tricia, I don’t think you’ll get Jim’s ear this time…

00:33:10    Dai (David):    Horizontal loyalty to itself worldwide (the MIC) more than vertical to the states they represent. For now, sadly, money still rules the day. Hearing people like Jim et al speak gives me hope we might just beat it yet.

00:33:47    Bob Hayes:    ::https://substack.com/@chrishedges::

00:33:50    Mary Thorp_WV:    This World of Disclosure is perfect. I’m grateful for this time.

00:34:00    Roberto Sciffo:    Alexander Mercouris

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCwGpHa6rMLjSSCBlckm5khw::

00:34:03    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    In 2 hour this will give some positivity about OUR LOVE/Heart FORCE. ::https://www.voiceamerica.com/show/2610/the-convergence:: The Evolutionary Leaders Circles, CVOICE AMERICA, ::https://www.voiceamerica.com/show/2610/the-convergence::

00:34:52    Bob Hayes:    ::https://therealnews.com/author/jeffrey-sachs::

00:35:01    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks, Bob!

00:35:10    Shannon McArthur:    And Roberto!

00:35:17    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Good! Do not VOTE for Biden!

00:35:18    Shannon McArthur:    You guys help a lot, thanks!

00:35:28    Roberto Sciffo:    thank you Shannon!

00:35:40    Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize:    Can someone please write the names of those good New Programs to listen to

00:35:56    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    WE DESPERATELY NEED THIS FOR A REAL DEMOCRACY:  Ask AI about RANKED CHOICE VOTING. It is vital to having America to get to be MORE Representative than the simple 2 Party System. call me it us want to talk about it.

00:36:09    Bob Hayes:    ::https://www.mearsheimer.com::

Mearsheimer | Home

John J. Mearsheimer is a realist theorist who teaches at the University of Chicago and has written influential books on security competition, war, and internationally.

00:36:14    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    THANK you so much, Jim!

00:37:50    Charry Stover:    Shannon, I replied to the email you sent out earlier this week that was talking about your project.   And I got an automatic response coming back to me saying that it could not be forwarded to you.   I am wondering if you ever got it?

00:37:55    Tricia Fortina:    Tina...  In this primary, don't vote for Biden...

Vote undecided...  It gives a message that we're not behind Biden in his Israeli support...

00:38:36    Shannon McArthur:    Charry, I did get it. I’ve been unwell so haven’t followed up yet. Thank you so much!

00:39:26    Cathy:    I find that almost unbelievable especially with what he said today

00:39:57    Roberto Sciffo:    well noticed Carol Sue!

00:40:00    SuzyK:    My only tremendous fear is that if we all turn against Biden then Trump will win and that would be quite dangerous. If we can win the house and senate we can get the progressives with the majority and make big changes…

00:40:07    Rachael Bliss:    We have to get out of dualistic thinking.

00:40:23    Cathy:    With the history Jim described, how could he ever have wanted biden

00:40:23    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    We Salute You by ZOOMING PEACE using The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0::  ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! You can too. :)

00:40:29    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Tina...  In this pri..."

@Tricia Fortina I'm actually for RFK, Jr. HIs stance on Israel-Gaza is problematic (for me)...but I believe he's at least reasonable and not "bought and paid for" like Biden...

00:40:47    Charry Stover:    Yes, I think once the Ukraine war started Jim was over supporting Biden.

00:41:26    Tricia Fortina:    From Jim earlier today....

    Max Blumenthal: What is Wrong With Israelis?

    ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjHm8DUrvTw&rco=1::

00:41:36    Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network:    Replying to "Tina...  In this pri..."

I am about to talk with Marianne Williamson about her joining Robert as a VP, then talk over after his first term… Etc.

00:41:37    Stanley Pokras:    Jim is talking about using the PRIMARY elections to send a message to Biden. He’s not advocating turning off support for Biden in the election in NOVEMBER

00:41:54    Charry Stover:    Rudd, well if you were Colorado and got that response, you probably were not in Boulder!   lol  You would not have gotten that response there.  :-)

00:42:07    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Tina...  In this pri..."

❤️

00:42:48    Bob Hayes:    Replying to "Tina...  In this pri..."

Kurt - are you going...

00:42:59    Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize:    Tricia I agree with you about Bobby Kennedy.  He is running on the platform of The Truth, isn't that novel?!

00:43:35    Cathy:    yes what can we do.  i tried to be active by calling many in the government. it was a farce.

00:43:57    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Jim is talking about..."

I will not vote for Biden. No way! The last 3+ years have been enough...From all the wars and aggression, to the "vax" mandates, to the economic turmoil....nope!

00:44:11    Charry Stover:    Interesting perspective Shannon.

00:45:03    Sharon:    Isn't it  interesting that RFK is Not speaking about Isreal? Pls all, share thoughts!

00:45:34    Bob Hayes:    John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3 | Lex Fridman Podcast #401

4.8M views · 3 months ago

Lex Fridman Podcast

https://youtu.be/r4wLXNydzeY?si=dby8N5RfP23_WaZM::

00:45:51    diana:    Sharon, last I saw (some time ago), he was for supporting Israel

00:46:20    Cathy:    people need to be empowered, not feeling powerless

00:46:43    Charry Stover:    It is tricky to speak about Israel.  Especially if you are not Jewish.   The conversation is so loaded with past trauma for those of Jewish descent in this country.

00:47:37    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "It is tricky to spea..."

@Charry Stover this is true.

00:47:50    Ruud West:    That is righr

00:47:51    Charry Stover:    Marianne Williamson was on Humanity Rising right after the war started.  She is Jewish, and she said some very profound things about the problems with trauma surrounding this war.

00:47:56    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    @Roberto Sciffo - Fun game!!

00:47:58    Ruud West:    That is righr

00:48:13    Mary Thorp_WV:    Shannon, what did you say one might say while awaiting the speaker to finish?

00:48:17    Ruud West:    That is true Riberto

00:48:23    Tricia Fortina:    I'm hearing you Tina...  I was going by what Michael Moore and Jim just said about voting undecided, as that shows the DNC that we're not for Biden's ways...

If you vote for RFK, in this primary, it might give the same message.

    I've been listening to Michael Moore, as he and a large group, organized 10,000 folks to all vote undecided to give a clear message in Michigan...  

That we're not backing Joe...

00:48:45    Ruud West:    All these parties are living in there own trance state

00:50:02    Cathy:    yes, love the idea of a new system

00:50:12    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    ...You can say "genocide", Roberto! If the shoe fits, after all!

00:51:18    Tricia Fortina:    Michael Moore via Rumble, if you care to tune in to him...

I like his perspective on some matters...  

In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/in-michigan-tuesday-we-ask-the-president?utm_source=podcast-email%2Csubstack&publication_id=320974&post_id=142056945&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_medium=email&r=pslr0&open=false::

00:51:59    Jack Strasburg:    We do know a lot of what Roberto says we don't know.   I do fully support the bucky Fuller quote

00:53:29    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "We do know a lot of ..."

👍

00:54:01    Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize:    did anyone get the names of the news that Jim recommended?

00:54:01    Mary Thorp_WV:    🔮

00:54:30    Roberto Sciffo:    Alexander Mercouris

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCwGpHa6rMLjSSCBlckm5khw::

00:54:48    Mary Thorp_WV:    Replying to "did anyone get the n…"

Yes if you pm me off line

00:55:02    Roberto Sciffo:    Claire Daly

00:55:14    Stanley Pokras:    Who Controls The World

James B. Glattfelder

Is someone who is using the science of Social Network Analysis to actually know who has the most influence. Who Controls The World

https://othernetworks.org/Who_Controls_The_World::

00:55:36    Roberto Sciffo:    ::https://www.aljazeera.com/::

00:56:01    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "Who Controls The Wor..."

🙏

00:56:20    Roberto Sciffo:    Chris Hedges

00:56:46    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Michael Moore via Ru..."

Thank you, @Tricia! I have been checking out Rumble lately! The censorship on some of the other media outlets gets old, IMHO!

00:58:00    Sharon:    Shannon now's a good time for a breathing break?

00:59:41    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "Shannon now's a good..."

Yes…

01:00:10    Sharon:    Replying to "Shannon now's a good..."

Absolutely, Roberto!

01:01:34    Sharon:    Replying to "Shannon now's a good..."

Thank you, Harriet, ...

01:02:23    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Replying to "Shannon now's a good..."

🙏🏼🥰

01:02:41    Cathy:    so true    resistance is not the answer but loving frequency out to the world

01:04:13    Stanley Pokras:    What do we mean when we say we are shifting from a capitalist 'commodity' economy, to a commons-based 'contributive' economy ?

Michel Bauwens

https://substack.com/@michelbauwens::

01:04:46    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    I just have a quick comment...

01:05:09    Bob Hayes:    Harriett

Much work was done to create the deadly problems we are facing now.

During our inattention much work has been accomplished to create vast wealth opportunities.

I'd say it was fairly certain that a huge percentage of our global populations are objecting to these outcomes we are having.

When we get together here we may begin to work on securing our next options.

01:07:12    Stanley Pokras:    Michel Bauwens is the founder of the P2P Foundation ::https://othernetworks.org/P2P_Foundation:: The P2P Foundation (officially, The Foundation for P2P Alternatives) is a non-profit organization and global network dedicated to advocacy and research of commons-oriented peer to peer (P2P) dynamics in society.

P2P is an abbreviation of “peer to peer”, sometimes also described as “person to person” or “people to people”. The essence of P2P is this direct relationship, and its core characteristics include:

Creation of common goods through open, participatory production and governance processes

Universal access guaranteed through licenses such as Creative Commons, GPL, Peer Production Licence.

01:07:26    Tricia Fortina:    I'll be breathing in the car with you all...  

Gotta get to work, here in Omaha.  ; )

01:08:47    Leo Jacoby:    Links I shared on Wednesday (::https://othernetworks.org/Day865HRChat::):

> ::https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/30/americas-undying-empire-why-the-decline-of-us-power-has-been-greatly-exaggerated::

> ::https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/the-rise-and-decline-the-american-empire-power-and-its-limits-comparative-perspective::

> :::https://mepc.org/speeches/end-american-empire::

> ::https://www.thenation.com/article/society/american-empire-decline/:: (Jan 2021)

01:09:12    SuzyK:    This is a talk from Danny explaining what will happen if votes go to Kennedy - ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OXVAoTOlPA::

01:09:55    Hyacinth Oesterlin:    BLESSINGS AND LOVE to you All

01:12:57    Charry Stover:    Blessings.

01:13:57    Sharon:    Tina's hand is up

01:14:36    Tina Michel, Rosenberg Texas:    Thank you all! <3 🥰

01:21:49    Bob Hayes:    Thanks folks.  See you all later.  Enjoy your day, don't forget.  💚

01:22:42    Stanley Pokras:    Hi Stan,

Great talking with you yesterday. And thanks for introducing us to the Encyclopedia of World Problems and Human Potential..

A friend of mine shared this software tool that seems to be great at connecting different subjects etc.

I have started to look into it and it's free for personal use, so I have downloaded the Windows version. I immediately thought that it may be something you would like to look into as well.

Here is the link:

https://obsidian.md/::

01:23:12    diana:    Thanks for all your Input of info, Bob :-)

01:30:00    Roberto Sciffo:    ::https://www.bth.se/eng/research/research-areas/strategic-sustainable-development/::

01:36:41    Stanley Pokras:    A Stroke of Insight

01:42:24    diana:    Jill Bolte Taylor ::https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_my_stroke_of_insight::

01:42:24    Roberto Sciffo:    rsciffo@gmail.com

01:42:36    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "Jill Bolte Taylor ht..."

🙏

01:44:19    Sharon:    Brand.earth

01:44:44    Stanley Pokras:    Harry -::https://othernetworks.org/Harry_Uvegi::

01:44:47    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "Brand.earth "

🙏

01:57:58    Jack Strasburg:    JackStrasburg@we.net

01:58:08    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "JackStrasburg@we.net"

🙏

02:17:41    Stanley Pokras:    ::https://othernetworks.org/Category:Is-Special_Collection::

02:17:50    Roberto Sciffo:    Replying to "::https://othernetwork::..."

🙏

02:24:11    Roberto Sciffo:    ::https://www.gaiaeducation.org/::

02:25:29    Roberto Sciffo:    ::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/graduate-degrees-in-design-for-sustainability/::

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