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Humanity Rising Day 308 After Chat   –   Tuesday September 7, 2021

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00:20:19    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Kurt Krueger, a founding member of the Peace Lab, 1-818-399-0771, SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com, .net. If you would like to collaborate on any area of Peace in life, let’s talk.

00:21:27    Shannon McArthur:    Please “raise your hand” or wave to join the conversation

00:23:34    Leo Jacoby:    See today's entry by Matthew Fox:

https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2021/09/07/anger-and-the-prophet-outrage-and-effective-action/::

as well as entries from past few days:

https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2021/09/06/whence-the-animosity-towards-sexuality-in-some-churches/::

https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2021/09/05/abortion-and-authoritarianism/::

https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2021/09/04/texas-zealots-banning-abortion-continued/::

https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2021/09/03/here-come-the-abortion-fanatics/::

00:24:25    Mushin:    Thanks Leo

00:25:07    David Stoney:    Candy, you mentioned a “women’s strike.”  Could you expand on that?

00:29:34    Karen Ball:    Mushin, are you familiar with the Dakota 38?

00:30:43    Mushin:    NO

00:31:31    Savanah:    Thank you, Mushin, for declaring the heart space of men. Women don’t need to buy into the divisive claim that men are all the enemy.

00:32:18    Anahata Pomeroy:    Have acomment

00:32:26    Karen Ball:    The For The People act includes taking money out of politics.

00:32:31    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks Anahata.

00:32:42    Savanah:    Right wing women are also responsible for the direction things are taking

00:34:36    Kathleen Thurmond:    ::https://www.men4choice.org::

00:34:50    Shannon McArthur:    Thank you Kathleen.

00:35:55    Nancy:    A New Divine Paradigm is emerging: Gender Equality.  All of this ‘control’ sure seems as if it’s ‘men’s last effort’ to ‘hold onto their power’ and not allow Women to ‘Own their Power’.  Only we women want the men to ‘Stand by our Side’ and not ‘stand behind us’ as men have sadly treated us.

00:36:11    Katie Winer (shey/they):    If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend watching the documentary The Family, which I found enlightening in understanding how the Evangelical Christian Church has so much political power both in the US and around the planet. It also shines a lot of light on this "Christo Fascist" philosophy and how they view their entitlement to power by force and inequality. ::https://www.netflix.com/title/80063867::

00:36:33    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Separation Demon… :( Republican v Demo. etc.

00:36:46    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Savannah, YES!

00:37:55    Karen Ball:    I cry daily.

00:38:03    Leo Jacoby:    Mushin mentioned "Cosmic Christ," a leaven in Christian thought that is an ally for humanity rising, if we are not blinded by stereotypes and a misconception that all religion is fundamentalist.

https://www.matthewfox.org/donation-store/the-coming-of-the-cosmic-christ-the-healing-of-mother-earth-and-the-birth-of-a-global-renaissance::

https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/sites/default/files/cosmic_christ.pdf::

https://cac.org/the-cosmic-christ-2015-11-05/::

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Christ::

https://ronrolheiser.com/the-cosmic-christ/::

https://christogenesis.org/reply-to-richard-rohr-cosmic-christ/::

00:38:20    Kathleen Thurmond:    During the AIDS crisis all genders worked together whether or not they were directly affected by AIDS.

00:38:52    Kathleen Thurmond:    It is time for us to come together in partnership, men, women and all genders in mutuality.

00:41:30    Leo Jacoby:    Thanks Katie for your witness today, and for the link to "The Family"

00:42:51    Leo Jacoby:    Shannon, have you read anything by Pope Francis?

00:42:54    Karen Ball:    Another good movie is Abigail Disney

00:43:03    Karen Ball:    Armor of Light

00:43:08    Nancy:    The Catholics were ‘programmed’ to have LOTS of babies to ‘propagate the world’, hence, no contraceptives should ever be used.

00:44:44    Kathleen Thurmond:    Candy:  Thanks for brining up this very important issue.  Pro-life stops once the woman gives birth.

00:45:25    Joy Gilfilen:    It's not just mothers impacted,  it is the grandmothers, and as Mushin spoke about grandfathers...it is a critical conversation.

00:46:59    Kathleen Thurmond:    Yes, I have a friend who has raised her now 17 year old grandson-very common in our culture.  He was born to a teenaged mother

00:48:09    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    I get to go around 10:20.

00:49:58    Shannon McArthur:    Thank you Kurt; you’re next

00:52:19    Katie Winer (shey/they):    I have to head to work y'all, but I am so grateful for this discourse today and all of the support I feel coming from you. <3

00:52:25    Kathleen Thurmond:    Stopping sex was how the women of Liberia put an end to war.  It wasn’t ongoing but created essential change in a war torn country.

00:52:34    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Let’s focus what positive preventions and ameliorating the issues. Let go of the blaming and the past, focus on the actions necessary… Share this: Start early ~ PARENTING is awesomely effective. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For inspiration listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/nBCJhNiKhFE::

00:52:51    Joy Gilfilen:    Here is a bigger take on Compound Civic Domestic Violence...the abuse of power by law enforcement CEO's who control the law...and this is directly related to civic unrest, civil violence...and guns.  This is not specifically about abortion...but it is directly related to the underbelly of how the law controls society.  And then above that, how the money controls the "OverCaste" systems of control.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCYitrV9RXY&t=11s::

00:55:50    Joy Gilfilen:    Instead, why not talk about how to have sacred sex and stop the sales of sex and the control of sex and babies as a tool of domination.  Mushin, thank you for speaking out - you have a big perspective that is useful. to drive conversations forward.

00:58:31    Candy Leonard:    Not meaning to self-promote - but you folks mind find it interesting  ::https://www.amazon.com/Beatleness-Beatles-Their-Remade-World/dp/1628726091/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1407161719&sr=1-1::

00:59:11    Kathleen Thurmond:    I need to run.  Thanks everyone

00:59:26    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks Kathleen for coming

00:59:59    Candy Leonard:    dichotomiess

01:00:05    Shannon McArthur:    Joy, would love to have you speak to those thougths

01:00:41    Anahata Pomeroy:    I missed yesterday and need to listen to that now.  aloha folks!

01:00:57    Shannon McArthur:    Bye Anahata! Love to have you here

01:01:50    Leo Jacoby:    Lots of dualisms to mend so that we are not divided and conquered:

men/women, religionists/secularists, indi‪genous/immigrant, republicans/democrats, pro-life/pro-choice, et.al.

Ken Wilber provided us a road map last week on different worldviews in a dialogue dance. Cf.: ::https://insights.mindvalley.com/@Irina.yugay/the-five-elements-quadrants/9bf8ddf7-5b4a-4eb7-8862-99919bcdc28c:: -- let's dance with persons with a different worldview, some in our own families.

01:08:12    Mushin:    Joy, I agree with the assertion regarding money.  Money and Technology are bound together.  I am deeply involved in Blockchain of Humanity & NFT Tokenization.

01:09:54    David Stoney:    Thanks, Shannon.  Long ago my ex-wife threatened to kill me in my sleep.  Seems to me that two of the greatest strengths women have are love and sex.  (Men also have 2 major strengths: Upper body strength and sex).  Without abandoning love (partnership), perhaps the time has come for women of child-bearing age to use the sex card (Kali nature).  That would be practically, financially impossible for many and very dangerous, of course, for many (most?) others.  Precautions would need to be taken: let your partner know that you will retaliate when they are asleep if there is any violence toward you.  Perhaps that would get their attention.  Then again, perhaps men can be loved into a more participatory consciousness.

01:13:01    Kat Haber:    Men can impregnate 270 women in the time one woman has 1 pregnancy. Our pollution is dramatically exceeding Earth’s carrying capacity already.

01:13:43    Kat Haber:    Yes, cocreating. non duality.

01:14:35    David Stoney:    I’ve got to go… take care, everyone…

01:27:46    Nancy:    All fetuses have ‘upper ovaries’ and then, ‘they drop’ into ‘lower testicles’ a few weeks later and this determines the gender of the child.

01:32:01    Nancy:    Boys have never been held accountable for impregnating a young girl and then, the girl is judged as a ‘whore and slut’ and has to live with this ‘shame’ and for the boys it’s said: “Well, boys will be boys.”

01:35:44    Leo Jacoby:    My grandson has a T-shirt "Boys will be... ("boys" scratched out) …. fine human beings. ::https://www.amazon.com/Boys-will-Caring-Responsible-shirt/dp/B07MJF4WN9::

01:36:12    Nancy:    Universal brainwashing that ‘Men are superior’ because of the Bible being interpreted as ‘The rib came from the man’s side’.  hence, man first, women second.

01:36:52    Mushin:    Thanks and have a great time as an artist as a beginner on a new blank canvas.

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