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Humanity Rising Day 551 After Chat   –   Monday October 3, 2022

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00:05:16    Dan Balcaban:    yes we can do it

00:06:36    Kurt Krueger:    All the world scriptures were written during  Kali Yuga. Described in India as the darkest and most troublesome times of the Four Great Yugas ~ each thousands of years long. According to tradition, the next Yuga is Satya, the most peaceful, pure time of the Yugas. Where Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace permeates life on Gaia.

What is your rendition of a scripture that would be adhered to in the coming Satya Yuga? Would there be more than one? This is something that will allow us to be the architects of the future, not its victims,” as Buckminster Fuller wrote. What say you?

In Service, Kurt K.

“The Center of the Universe is Everywhere.

The Circumference Nowhere.” ~ Black Elk

00:08:19    Leo Jacoby:    Gilda, tell us more of your story. How did you discover and choose to be involved with Nonviolent Peaceforce?

00:11:21    Leo Jacoby:    What kind of lawyer skills can Nonviolent Peaceforce use?

00:12:22    Stanley Pokras:    This is the AfterChat for Day 551

00:13:03    Marty:    What was the name of the film Gilda mentioned?

00:13:22    Shannon McArthur:    The Third Harmony. We'll be screening it on Saturday

00:14:35    Shannon McArthur:    Or Humanity Rising will, and we'll gather here after it.

00:15:03    Marty:    Shannon, thank you. Can you provide a link for the screening you mentioned?

00:15:10    Dan Balcaban:    sweet

00:15:46    Shannon McArthur:    I'm sorry, I can’t -- keep watching HR and Jim is sure to provide it.

00:16:03    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://nonviolentpeaceforce.org/co-founder-david-hartsough-a-heart-for-people/:: (March 11, 2019 Quaker from San Francisco, author of Waging Peace: Global Adventures of a Lifelong Activist, Director of Peaceworkers and Co-founder of NP)

00:16:38    Stanley Pokras:    George Lakey Documentary in the works see the trailer here: ::https://www.georgelakeyfilm.com/::

00:18:07    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    Gilda, I love your heart!

00:18:27    Gilda with Nonviolent Peaceforce:    Thank you!

00:19:25    Marty:    Department of Peacebuilding Act:  ::https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1111::

00:19:37    Shannon McArthur:    Marty, thank you!

00:19:41    Michael Coles:    As the world police state, If the USA is afraid of itself, How can the rest of the world feel safe.

00:19:53    Shannon McArthur:    Love the number!

00:20:59    Leo Jacoby:    > ::https://othernetworks.org/Chartres_4_Peace_Labyrinth_-_Sheila_Scotese_Spremulli::

> ::https://www.legacylabyrinthproject.org/environment::

> ::https://www.facebook.com/creating.dedicating.connecting/::

> ::https://www.veriditas.org/Sys/PublicProfile/25940115/4066803::

> ::https://www.veriditas.org/Sys/PublicProfile/25940115/4066803::

00:22:45    Katie Augustine:    Karl, can you please add the authors/books in the chat here? Thank you!!

00:23:05    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insanity_of_Normality::

00:23:53    Sheila Spremulli:    ::https://labyrinthsociety.org/whats-new/9989-tls-community-workshop-nov-12::

00:24:15    Marty:    The Dept. of Peacebuilding Act has been sponsored by Rep. Lee, Barbara [D-CA-13] (Introduced 02/18/2021) in the past several sessions of Congress. The idea is to devote 1% of the Defense Budget to a new Department of Peacebuilding. Imagine what can be done with $8 billion/year to promote peace.

00:24:29    Shannon McArthur:    Dan, my mistake - I was thinking Dan Bailiff!!

00:24:39    Sheila Spremulli:    www.birthpsychology.com Association of Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health

00:25:23    Katie Augustine:    Thank you, Leo!

00:27:22    Leo Jacoby:    The Insanity of Normality: Toward Understanding Human Destructiveness is a book about the root causes of cruelty and violence written by psychoanalyst Arno Gruen. It is Gruen's answer to Freud about human destructiveness. Wikipedia Originally published: 1987

00:27:26    Katie Augustine:    Sorry I'm not able to contribute or be on video today - just got in from some early flights and still settling in - And wanted to listen in, of course!

00:29:13    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/927581.Betrayal_of_the_Self:: Betrayal of the Self (Love or power? these are the opposing poles of a choice every child is compelled to make, very early in its life, in a drama that sets it irrevocably on its path through life. cf. Google Books 1984 by Arno Gruen

00:29:25    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    Dan how can we reach you?

00:29:32    Katie Augustine:    Gilda, in gratitude for your and your teams/orgs work!!

00:30:13    Shannon McArthur:    Need that link, please!!

00:31:08    Clare Rosenfield:    Barbara Marx Hubbard wanted to create a Dept. of Peace if she had been chosen as VP

00:31:40    Kurt Krueger:    PREVENTING VIOLENCE. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!

It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE.  All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.

Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.

"Let virtue lead the way, and every step will be safe.” ~ Seneca

00:31:45    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    Katie did you get to hear Gilda? If not it is worth going back and watch

00:32:02    Kurt Krueger:    PARENTING is awesomely effective in opening our hearts and expanding them. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For 2 minutes listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::

Developing and applying quality values is vitally important for all levels of society.

00:33:11    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    Paul’s new book – Dr. GoIn honor of PaulLloyd Warner‘s 84th birthday, October 5th… the launch of d, "The Healer Within" + 5hr Music for Peace album series ::https://MusicforPeace.com::

We are setting up a Clubhouse room Thursday, October 6, 2022 10am PT/12pm CT/1pm ET with singer/songwriter, Vesey Mink. She will be our Host/Moderator and using her room…Thank you Vessy!

We will send out links later!  I will provide link later in the week when I get it

00:33:53    Kurt Krueger:    Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab

Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision! Let's keep connected and collaborate.

Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily)

• Success Systems International ~ ::https://www.SuccessSystemsInternational.net::

• PeaceMakers Circles/Network ~ ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::

• WORLD FEST, http://www.theworldfestorganization.org.

• Peace Lab/IMAGINED ~ http://www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab

• Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel ~ ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA::

‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Nelson Mandela

00:34:43    Sheila Spremulli:    @dan my email is spremulli.s@gmail.com please consider connecting with me.

00:34:55    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lakey::

00:35:14    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://www.afsc.org/content/george-lakey-0::

00:35:29    Dan Balcaban:    Still fleshing out the concept for the documentary series about healing trauma. Here's the previous documentary we created about people experiencing homelessness http://www.careaboutusfilm.info

email is danbalcaban@gmail.com

00:35:54    Shannon McArthur:    ::https://www.sinai22.com/::

00:36:13    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://www.afsc.org/content/george-lakey-0:: (has led over 1,500 social change workshops on five continents. He recently retired from Swarthmore College.)

00:36:36    Clare Rosenfield:    Wow Shannon, that is fantastic

00:36:55    Katie Augustine:    Shannon, we are so grateful to you for this! 🙏🏻

00:36:59    Stanley Pokras:    George Lakey documentary: ::https://www.georgelakeyfilm.com/::

00:37:25    Katie Augustine:    Shannon, do you have a link of this so we can follow you all along the way or ?

00:37:39    Katie Augustine:    Oh I see it now !

00:38:10    Sheila Spremulli:    @ dan thanks I’ll connect

00:38:16    Leo Jacoby:    Some George Lakey article:

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/09/how-going-outside-our-comfort-zones-puts-us-in-touch-with-our-power/::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/08/remembering-the-genius-of-bayard-rustin/::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/05/how-activists-can-fight-through-doom-and-gloom-to-be-more-effective/::

00:38:24    Dielle in West Virginia:    http://sinai22.com

00:38:30    Shannon McArthur:    I'm at sparklingwithall@gmail.com

00:38:36    Dielle in West Virginia:    also a FB event

00:38:41    Shannon McArthur:    ::https://www.sinai22.com/::

00:39:20    Heather Tischbein:    So  good to see you all this Monday morning.

00:39:29    Shannon McArthur:    Heather, good to see you!

00:39:56    Shannon McArthur:    I'm not a big fan of advertising, but I'm a HUGE fan of peace!!

00:41:04    Shannon McArthur:    ::http://ourheartgardens.com::

00:41:14    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://archive.org/details/inlibrary?query=George+Lakey:: (Lakey ebooks you can borrow online, including Viking Economics recommended by Stan.)

00:42:17    Dan Balcaban:    PSA?

00:42:24    Clare Rosenfield:    Invitations, broadcasting, informing

00:42:36    Leo Jacoby:    badvertising vs goodvertising?

00:43:14    Clare Rosenfield:    inviting kids to make posters for peace and post them in huge forms on big buildings like years ago once happened with large photos of wildlife

00:43:18    Shannon McArthur:    After the AfterChat is “I am Peace”, a short film: ::http://gamip.org/elementor-1283/::

00:43:34    Shannon McArthur:    Clare! Great idea!

00:43:41    Dielle in West Virginia:    tracking and developing themes & messages - interestin idea, but sounds EXPENSIVE. best use of resources? worth exploring.

00:43:55    Dan Balcaban:    Advertising is the messaging system. What's the message?

00:44:04    Shannon McArthur:    decentralized and personal PEACE!

00:44:04    Katie Augustine:    Some of you have heard me say this a few times, but tiktok is a great place to get out a message. As I learn it - using it for purposes - I will share here. I am getting my own ‘page' (not sure the official name) going to hold a vision for the Planet and Her Creatures… More Soon!

00:44:18    Leo Jacoby:    Descartes: "I think therefore I am." Pokras: "We link therefore we are."

00:44:27    Kat Haber:    Do any of the rest of us have concerns about violence in our communities?

00:44:29    Shannon McArthur:    Oooo, Leo!

00:44:46    Clare Rosenfield:    I love that -I link therefore we are

00:45:00    Dan Balcaban:    Yes for sure

00:45:09    Dan Balcaban:    I'll do it with comedy

00:45:21    Dan Balcaban:    Make people Laugh until their hearts change :P

00:45:26    Christa:    Peace promotion

00:45:31    Shannon McArthur:    Oh, yes, Dan!!

00:45:56    Dan Balcaban:    I have a showcase coming up on Oct 9th at Flappers Burbank if you're free :)

00:45:57    Katie Augustine:    Go PEACE!

00:46:05    Clare Rosenfield:    And invite big gigantic posters

00:46:07    Leo Jacoby:    peacevertising

00:46:23    Katie Augustine:    Carol Sue - it's called Love Channel? Sorry what was the name again you mentioned?

00:46:42    Dan Balcaban:    A unified message sent all at once would be effective

00:47:03    Christa:    I

00:47:04    Sheila Spremulli:    sorry I need to leave

00:47:10    Katie Augustine:    Marianne Williamson was suggesting a Dept of Peace when and after she ran - I'm wondering if that has any traction anywhere…

00:47:18    Shannon McArthur:    I'm sorry too, Sheila, it's been fun!

00:47:25    Gilda with Nonviolent Peaceforce:    www.nonviolentpeaceforce.org

00:47:42    Christa:    Advertising has the potential to stir people up.

00:47:56    Shannon McArthur:    We need to be stirred, not shaken!!

00:48:06    Clare Rosenfield:    The Sleeping Giantess Wakes Up I spoke of last week where the Giantess who is Mother Earth has nightmares for billions of year and only when two children walk across the planet breathing in love and out peace and more of that, it awakens the Giantess and soon no one is fighting anymore and thus Mother Earth stops having nightmares!

00:48:26    Gilda with Nonviolent Peaceforce:    gbettencourt@nonviolentpeaceforce.org

00:48:33    Kurt Krueger:    ON HUMANITY Rising: 7-29-22, Humor, Happiness, and Laughter for Thriving Societies. Raheen Fatima, Mitch Ditkoff,  Steve Bhaerman, Sebastien Gendry. ::https://youtu.be/8q3x6NQfwqw:: Number 531.

00:48:58    Clare Rosenfield:    And I have another book Seven Meditations for Children which has a lot of non violent messages as well. Plus To The Rescue: LIttle Creatures How Do I Love Thee telling seven true stories of how I saved the lives of little creatures!

00:49:03    Dielle in West Virginia:    I am so thrilled to know about NV Peace Force

00:50:23    Kurt Krueger:    Join your neighborhood association council, save old Oaks, bring more fun to life

00:50:54    Leo Jacoby:    "War is waste. Peace is prosperity"

00:51:04    Katie Augustine:    Powerful 6!

00:51:27    Marty:    Goodbye all. I have another meeting I'll be joining.  See you tomorrow.

00:51:52    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages::

00:52:12    Katie Augustine:    Yes, thank you, Gilda!

00:52:34    Leo Jacoby:    Get a peace of the action

00:53:18    Leo Jacoby:    Be a Peace Funder

00:53:30    Dielle in West Virginia:    you get what you pay for; don't pay for war

00:53:57    Clare Rosenfield:    What would you tell to the Ukrainians???

00:55:41    Dan Balcaban:    I like stirring the pot :) hehe

00:56:02    Dan Balcaban:    My siblings used to call me a shit stirrer

00:56:36    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    Dan I would like to connect with you. If you have facebook you can friend me at Carol Sue Engleman and can call me at 760-437-5299

00:56:49    Dan Balcaban:    If we have a good idea, we can make it go viral in creative ways :)

00:57:14    Leo Jacoby:    More articles by George Lakey:

> ::https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/02/28/ukraine-russia-myth-violence-keeps-us-safe::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/01/fighting-for-democracy-verses-building-powerful-social-movements/::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2021/12/how-to-counter-the-growing-threat-of-agent-provocateurs/::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2019/07/gene-sharp-cold-war-intellectual-marcie-smith/::

> ::https://wagingnonviolence.org/2019/06/lgbtq-movement-50-years-stonewall-lessons/::

00:58:18    Gilda with Nonviolent Peaceforce:    Thank you, Everyone!  I have to leave now but it's been wonderful to spend a little time with you all.  Thank you for everything that you are doing for our nonviolent future!

00:58:37    Leo Jacoby:    > ::https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/03/civil-rights-legend-george-lakey-this-is-a-bigger-opportunity-than-the-60s::

00:58:50    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    @Katie It is called Love TV and Love Radio which is the same shows you can listen to the TV on the Radio and plays great oldies and Country Western at 3 AM.  I was shocked at how big Country Western is here

00:58:52    Shannon McArthur:    I have to go too... love you all!

00:59:21    Stanley Pokras:    What is George doing now: Earth Quaker Action Team (EQAT) ::https://www.eqat.org/::

01:01:26    Leo Jacoby:    ::https://usfblogs.usfca.edu/fierce-urgency/2021/09/22/u-s-nonviolence-leaders-honor-david-hartsough/::

01:07:55    Katie Augustine:    I am so grateful, too!

01:08:28    Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize:    It was nice to share in the silence!

01:09:05    Dan Balcaban:    Sorry folks, have to head out. Thanks for having me

01:10:18    Kat Haber:    Law of predominant mental impression!

01:10:39    Katie Augustine:    thank you, Kurt!

01:11:02    Kat Haber:    @Stan Life is not a competition. Life is about helping and inspiring others so we can each reach our potential.

01:11:05    Clare Rosenfield:    Thank you. Hoping to stay connected.

01:11:10    Kat Haber:    Thanks, Kurt

01:11:11    Katie Augustine:    Thank you to each of you! See you Weds!

01:11:29    Kurt Krueger:    Here’s a 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day (in your home language)… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and all our Relations.

Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet. Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…



The Peace LAB/IMAGINED practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism,  and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.

Be a Member of Peace LAB/IMAGINED by taking action! Meditating, smiling, sharing Love...

"Because you are alive, everything is possible."

Thích Nhat Hanh

01:11:42    Dielle in West Virginia:    See you again as the week proceeds. Promote peace. You DO get that you pay for.

01:12:20    Michael Coles:    mind body spirit mantras  yes, thanks kurt

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