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15:10:36 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_W._Graves::


15:10:36 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_W._Graves</nowiki>
15:11:15 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics::


15:11:15 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics</nowiki>
15:13:15 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs::


15:13:15 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs</nowiki>
15:13:22 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : ::https://lincolnmichel.wordpress.com/2014/04/19/maslows-hierarchy-connected-to-blackfoot-beliefs/::
 
15:13:22 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : <nowiki>https://lincolnmichel.wordpress.com/2014/04/19/maslows-hierarchy-connected-to-blackfoot-beliefs/</nowiki>


15:14:14 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Article showing that Maslow got his ideas from the Blackfoot tribe
15:14:14 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Article showing that Maslow got his ideas from the Blackfoot tribe


15:14:59 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "The Never Ending Quest"
<nowiki>https://www.clarewgraves.com/neq/neq.html</nowiki>
15:14:59 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "The Never Ending Quest"
::https://www.clarewgraves.com/neq/neq.html::


15:17:00 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : @ken thanks for that
15:17:00 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : @ken thanks for that


15:19:43 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graves%27s_emergent_cyclical_levels_of_existence</nowiki>
15:19:43 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graves%27s_emergent_cyclical_levels_of_existence::


15:20:22 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Graves identified the existential problems / life conditions with letters in the first half of the alphabet (A, B, C, D, E, F...), and the emergent coping systems with letters in the second half (N, O, P, Q, R, S...). Each system emerges in response to the corresponding existential problems. (N in response to A, O in response to B, etc.)
15:20:22 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Graves identified the existential problems / life conditions with letters in the first half of the alphabet (A, B, C, D, E, F...), and the emergent coping systems with letters in the second half (N, O, P, Q, R, S...). Each system emerges in response to the corresponding existential problems. (N in response to A, O in response to B, etc.)
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15:33:45 From David Pinto to Everyone : Reading the items on wikipedia, can people here evaluate what letter pair they may be? Is this feasible? Would this be useful?
15:33:45 From David Pinto to Everyone : Reading the items on wikipedia, can people here evaluate what letter pair they may be? Is this feasible? Would this be useful?


15:34:53 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : good article: <nowiki>http://spiraldynamics-integral.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Graves-Clare-Pathfinder-on-the-Mohaw</nowiki>
15:34:53 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : good article: ::http://spiraldynamics-integral.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Graves-Clare-Pathfinder-on-the-Mohaw::


15:34:56 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : (PDF)
15:34:56 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : (PDF)


15:35:17 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : sorry, corrected link: <nowiki>http://spiraldynamics-integral.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Graves-Clare-Pathfinder-on-the-Mohawk.pdf</nowiki> (PDF)
15:35:17 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : sorry, corrected link: ::http://spiraldynamics-integral.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Graves-Clare-Pathfinder-on-the-Mohawk.pdf:: (PDF)


15:35:36 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Known cognitive error - people tend to overestimate their own position on the motivation / needs scales, and underestimate others...
15:35:36 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Known cognitive error - people tend to overestimate their own position on the motivation / needs scales, and underestimate others...
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15:37:36 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : "your conditions of existence"
15:37:36 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : "your conditions of existence"


15:38:21 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</nowiki>
15:38:21 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect::


15:38:40 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : 🙏🏼Pete!
15:38:40 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : 🙏🏼Pete!
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15:40:47 From Parmjit Nahil to Everyone : Also most people suffer from imposter syndrome - go figure!
15:40:47 From Parmjit Nahil to Everyone : Also most people suffer from imposter syndrome - go figure!


15:40:48 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : there are probably different studies, but here's one: "65% of Americans believe they are above average in intelligence: Results of two nationally representative surveys"
<nowiki>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6029792/</nowiki>
15:40:48 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : there are probably different studies, but here's one: "65% of Americans believe they are above average in intelligence: Results of two nationally representative surveys"
::https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6029792/::


15:41:44 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : Pete, almost scary…
15:41:44 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : Pete, almost scary…
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15:45:17 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : epigenetics
15:45:17 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : epigenetics


15:45:39 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allostatic_load</nowiki> (Bruce McEwen)
15:45:39 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allostatic_load:: (Bruce McEwen)


15:46:10 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Type 1 allostatic load occurs when energy demand exceeds supply, resulting in activation of the emergency life history stage. Type 2 allostatic load results from sufficient or even excess energy consumption being accompanied by social conflict or other types of social dysfunction."
15:46:10 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Type 1 allostatic load occurs when energy demand exceeds supply, resulting in activation of the emergency life history stage. Type 2 allostatic load results from sufficient or even excess energy consumption being accompanied by social conflict or other types of social dysfunction."
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15:46:44 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Tribal Leadership", book by Dave Logan and John King
15:46:44 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "Tribal Leadership", book by Dave Logan and John King


15:48:12 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "A Step-by-Step Guide to Tribal Leadership: Part 1: The Five Stages of Tribal Culture" blog post about the book by Venessa Miemis
<nowiki>https://emergentbydesign.com/2012/06/28/a-step-by-step-guide-to-tribal-leadership-part-1-the-five-stages-of-tribal-culture/</nowiki>
15:48:12 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "A Step-by-Step Guide to Tribal Leadership: Part 1: The Five Stages of Tribal Culture" blog post about the book by Venessa Miemis
::https://emergentbydesign.com/2012/06/28/a-step-by-step-guide-to-tribal-leadership-part-1-the-five-stages-of-tribal-culture/::


15:49:10 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions", book by Thomas Kuhn
15:49:10 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions", book by Thomas Kuhn
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15:49:37 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : She’s married now and I think she changed her last name…
15:49:37 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : She’s married now and I think she changed her last name…


15:49:52 From Jeroen Koomen to Everyone : The five stages of tribal culture map nicely to Tuckman’s model of team development <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuckman%27s_stages_of_group_development</nowiki>
15:49:52 From Jeroen Koomen to Everyone : The five stages of tribal culture map nicely to Tuckman’s model of team development ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuckman%27s_stages_of_group_development::


15:50:09 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Thanks Jeroen!
15:50:09 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Thanks Jeroen!
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15:56:29 From Kyle Smith to Everyone : I wonder if standing on the shoulders of giants allows people to skip certain steps. If it is possible, I wonder if it's a good thing? For instance, it's arguably better to learn the basics of math and build up step-by-step, since the topic reinforces itself so well.  
15:56:29 From Kyle Smith to Everyone : I wonder if standing on the shoulders of giants allows people to skip certain steps. If it is possible, I wonder if it's a good thing? For instance, it's arguably better to learn the basics of math and build up step-by-step, since the topic reinforces itself so well.  


15:57:09 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : I missed the beginning of the conversation, and I know Sam Rose, a bit about Spiral Dynamics, plus I use World View in my ThriveTypes - <nowiki>http://www.thrivetypes.com/world-view</nowiki> and I use it practically with people ALL THE TIME. It matters.
15:57:09 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : I missed the beginning of the conversation, and I know Sam Rose, a bit about Spiral Dynamics, plus I use World View in my ThriveTypes - ::http://www.thrivetypes.com/world-view:: and I use it practically with people ALL THE TIME. It matters.


15:57:27 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Maslow's "needs" are more immediate. A quick look at SD levels and letters, seems like C red is not an improvement of B purple. D blue is very Buddhist and E orange leads to the decline.
15:57:27 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Maslow's "needs" are more immediate. A quick look at SD levels and letters, seems like C red is not an improvement of B purple. D blue is very Buddhist and E orange leads to the decline.
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16:00:16 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : Yes. I run metaphysical fairs too, so I’m around a lot of people that deeply believe, see practical applications and do make good use of it. It is not my thing though....
16:00:16 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : Yes. I run metaphysical fairs too, so I’m around a lot of people that deeply believe, see practical applications and do make good use of it. It is not my thing though....


16:01:41 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>http://www.thrivetypes.com/world-view</nowiki>
16:01:41 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::http://www.thrivetypes.com/world-view::


16:02:00 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Survival: simple, gets basic needs met
16:02:00 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : Survival: simple, gets basic needs met
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Service: non-dualistic contributions
Service: non-dualistic contributions


16:07:37 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : <nowiki>http://timz.flowers</nowiki> in the hot seat on july 12
16:07:37 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ::http://timz.flowers:: in the hot seat on july 12


16:08:20 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Holacracy outcomes are TBD.  The company that it started in did not flourish, by commercial metrics. Medium abandoned using it
16:08:20 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Holacracy outcomes are TBD.  The company that it started in did not flourish, by commercial metrics. Medium abandoned using it


16:08:29 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : <nowiki>http://www.bobhorn.us</nowiki>
16:08:29 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : ::http://www.bobhorn.us::


16:08:56 From Kyle Smith to Everyone : Thank you! I enjoyed being here.  
16:08:56 From Kyle Smith to Everyone : Thank you! I enjoyed being here.  
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16:10:23 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : @Walter interesting. Yes, Graves basically said one level is not necessarily better than another per se, other than being more cognitively complex. But these are the levels that do emerge in humans
16:10:23 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : @Walter interesting. Yes, Graves basically said one level is not necessarily better than another per se, other than being more cognitively complex. But these are the levels that do emerge in humans


16:11:23 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : <nowiki>https://thrivingresilience.org/collaborative-funding/collaborative-funding-dojo/</nowiki>
16:11:23 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : ::https://thrivingresilience.org/collaborative-funding/collaborative-funding-dojo/::


16:12:06 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : This is great @Ben
16:12:06 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : This is great @Ben
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16:13:58 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : of possible related interest, very deep:  
16:13:58 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : of possible related interest, very deep:  


<nowiki>https://www.amazon.com/How-Forests-Think-Toward-Anthropology/dp/0520276116/ref=asc_df_0520276116</nowiki>
::https://www.amazon.com/How-Forests-Think-Toward-Anthropology/dp/0520276116/ref=asc_df_0520276116::


16:14:54 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : <nowiki>https://thrivingresilience.org/clouds-and-forest/</nowiki>
16:14:54 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : ::https://thrivingresilience.org/clouds-and-forest/::


16:18:27 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : new features every week !!
16:18:27 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : new features every week !!


16:18:49 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : <nowiki>https://catalist.network/community/cicolab?tab=Resources</nowiki>
16:18:49 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : ::https://catalist.network/community/cicolab?tab=Resources::


<nowiki>16:21:39 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : [cicolab] Snarky Anarchy 2021-03-08 Grantwriting Quest</nowiki>
::16:21:39 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : [cicolab] Snarky Anarchy 2021-03-08 Grantwriting Quest::


   youtu.be/sSsDsQHrvvg
   youtu.be/sSsDsQHrvvg


16:21:58 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : <nowiki>https://www.catalist.network</nowiki>
16:21:58 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : ::https://www.catalist.network::


16:22:16 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : invite link for CICOLAB: <nowiki>https://www.catalist.network/invite/cicolab</nowiki>
16:22:16 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : invite link for CICOLAB: ::https://www.catalist.network/invite/cicolab::


16:22:35 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "[cicolab] Snarky Anarchy 2021-03-08 Grantwriting Quest"
<nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSsDsQHrvvg</nowiki>
16:22:35 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "[cicolab] Snarky Anarchy 2021-03-08 Grantwriting Quest"
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSsDsQHrvvg::


16:23:44 From David Pinto to Everyone : Nice design of the invite gateway, Vincent.
16:23:44 From David Pinto to Everyone : Nice design of the invite gateway, Vincent.


16:26:55 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : This doc?  <nowiki>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ephXJIprC9TIAcm1ls-AotzqMWlVwPVxcDILhQ_dp8M/edit#heading=h.kzo1z3w6mjw8</nowiki>
16:26:55 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : This doc?  ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ephXJIprC9TIAcm1ls-AotzqMWlVwPVxcDILhQ_dp8M/edit#heading=h.kzo1z3w6mjw8::


16:27:09 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : I have some connections with grant writers -what is wanted?
16:27:09 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : I have some connections with grant writers -what is wanted?
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16:32:14 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : In this particular bunch, the doer / talker ratio is at least 50/50
16:32:14 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : In this particular bunch, the doer / talker ratio is at least 50/50


16:33:37 From Stanley Pokras to Walter Karshat(Direct Message) : My agency taught computers and refurbished computers. It’s over now. But I continue working. My current project is <nowiki>http://othernetworks.org</nowiki>
16:33:37 From Stanley Pokras to Walter Karshat(Direct Message) : My agency taught computers and refurbished computers. It’s over now. But I continue working. My current project is ::http://othernetworks.org::


16:34:15 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : <nowiki>https://fundoss.org/collective/kendraio</nowiki>
16:34:15 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : ::https://fundoss.org/collective/kendraio::


16:35:25 From Nate~ GWA Freemont CA (he/him) to Everyone : What's everyone's thoughts on this template for a summarized project portfolio for a quick lead and multiple consolidated portals via branching? <nowiki>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EtFAT98vMFq0voGhamaedNCfSe7KUPYbkwhjDgRYGjA/edit?usp=drivesdk</nowiki>
16:35:25 From Nate~ GWA Freemont CA (he/him) to Everyone : What's everyone's thoughts on this template for a summarized project portfolio for a quick lead and multiple consolidated portals via branching? ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EtFAT98vMFq0voGhamaedNCfSe7KUPYbkwhjDgRYGjA/edit?usp=drivesdk::


16:36:32 From Nate~ GWA Freemont CA (he/him) to Everyone : @Judith @Ben in particular drawing from your wealth of experiences ☝️
16:36:32 From Nate~ GWA Freemont CA (he/him) to Everyone : @Judith @Ben in particular drawing from your wealth of experiences ☝️
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Here is the link to the list sign-up form:
Here is the link to the list sign-up form:


<nowiki>https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org</nowiki>
::https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org::


Stan Pokras
Stan Pokras
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16:42:38 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @lauren, is fundoss similar to Gitcoin?
16:42:38 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : @lauren, is fundoss similar to Gitcoin?


16:43:21 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : <nowiki>https://fundoss.org/collective/kendraio</nowiki>
16:43:21 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : ::https://fundoss.org/collective/kendraio::


16:43:33 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : On that note, who else got the GTC airdrop?
16:43:33 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : On that note, who else got the GTC airdrop?


16:43:51 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "FundOSS is a pilot program of Open Source Collective and Gitcoin that uses a mathematical distribution of funds to proportionally multiply a single donation."
<nowiki>https://blog.opencollective.com/fundoss-faqv1/</nowiki>
16:43:51 From Pete Kaminski to Everyone : "FundOSS is a pilot program of Open Source Collective and Gitcoin that uses a mathematical distribution of funds to proportionally multiply a single donation."
::https://blog.opencollective.com/fundoss-faqv1/::


16:44:37 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : I donated to it.
16:44:37 From Samuel Rose to Everyone : I donated to it.
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16:51:05 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : thx so much sam for being here
16:51:05 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : thx so much sam for being here


16:52:53 From David Pinto to Everyone : I’m looking for people here on Crysalis to see if there’s any potential collaboration potential. <nowiki>https://www.catalist.network/community/cicolab?tab=Members</nowiki> If you are not here, please do ping me a link to what you are up to.
16:52:53 From David Pinto to Everyone : I’m looking for people here on Crysalis to see if there’s any potential collaboration potential. ::https://www.catalist.network/community/cicolab?tab=Members:: If you are not here, please do ping me a link to what you are up to.


16:53:29 From Stanley Pokras to Walter Karshat(Direct Message) : Yes, you can help by adding info. There’s a button on the main page for that. You can also join the email list I’m promoting so we can have more detailed conversations and ask each other questions when we’re not here live. Here is the link to the list sign-up form:
16:53:29 From Stanley Pokras to Walter Karshat(Direct Message) : Yes, you can help by adding info. There’s a button on the main page for that. You can also join the email list I’m promoting so we can have more detailed conversations and ask each other questions when we’re not here live. Here is the link to the list sign-up form:


<nowiki>https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org</nowiki>
::https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org::


16:53:37 From James’s iPad to Everyone : I was able to donate.
16:53:37 From James’s iPad to Everyone : I was able to donate.
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17:03:53 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Folks, speak up if you want a 5 min download on why and how of Lauren's "We raised $825"
17:03:53 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Folks, speak up if you want a 5 min download on why and how of Lauren's "We raised $825"


17:04:57 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : <nowiki>http://goodcausegroup.com</nowiki> = cicolab grant advisors
17:04:57 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ::http://goodcausegroup.com:: = cicolab grant advisors


17:05:16 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : The important part is actually not the $
17:05:16 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : The important part is actually not the $
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17:13:06 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : That’s what ThriveTypes is for!
17:13:06 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : That’s what ThriveTypes is for!


17:13:29 From Dounia to Everyone : <nowiki>https://thrivingresilience.org/collaborative-funding/collaborative-funding-dojo/</nowiki>
17:13:29 From Dounia to Everyone : ::https://thrivingresilience.org/collaborative-funding/collaborative-funding-dojo/::


17:14:56 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : brb
17:14:56 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : brb
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17:17:07 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Having some connectivity issues today🙁
17:17:07 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Having some connectivity issues today🙁


17:19:45 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : <nowiki>http://simpol.oreg</nowiki> Simultaneousn Policy
17:19:45 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ::http://simpol.oreg:: Simultaneousn Policy


17:19:55 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ^^  founder John Bunzl is a friend
17:19:55 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ^^  founder John Bunzl is a friend


17:20:03 From David Pinto to Everyone : We’ve built the tool for this. Check it out — <nowiki>https://app.sqale.co/open-invite/dzQsB9SfSVjP0yO8hDzWPMFAVuDgZW</nowiki>
17:20:03 From David Pinto to Everyone : We’ve built the tool for this. Check it out — ::https://app.sqale.co/open-invite/dzQsB9SfSVjP0yO8hDzWPMFAVuDgZW::


17:20:14 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : Citizens MultiNationals is trying this, it is mainly in Dutch, and they are in change, but the idea is interesting. I try to get more info.
17:20:14 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : Citizens MultiNationals is trying this, it is mainly in Dutch, and they are in change, but the idea is interesting. I try to get more info.


17:21:17 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : <nowiki>https://www.simpol.org/</nowiki>
17:21:17 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : ::https://www.simpol.org/::


17:22:14 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : Thank you Lauren, Charles, et al.  I need to sign off...
17:22:14 From Ben Roberts to Everyone : Thank you Lauren, Charles, et al.  I need to sign off...
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Here is the link to the list sign-up form:
Here is the link to the list sign-up form:


<nowiki>https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org</nowiki>
::https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org::


Stan Pokras
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17:29:40 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Is @charles looking at some web page?
17:29:40 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Is @charles looking at some web page?


17:30:24 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : <nowiki>https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/</nowiki>
17:30:24 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : ::https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/::


17:30:30 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : Thanks, Mark!
17:30:30 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : Thanks, Mark!
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17:30:37 From David Pinto to Everyone : If you accept the Cicolab product I’ve shared through Sqale, and you find the Graph, there’s an interesting comment by a guy called Andrew.
17:30:37 From David Pinto to Everyone : If you accept the Cicolab product I’ve shared through Sqale, and you find the Graph, there’s an interesting comment by a guy called Andrew.


17:31:05 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : <nowiki>http://JerryMichalski.com</nowiki>
17:31:05 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : ::http://JerryMichalski.com::


17:31:40 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : "CSC Agora"
17:31:40 From charles blass [he-him] to Everyone : "CSC Agora"
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17:45:32 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : which link, David?
17:45:32 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : which link, David?


17:45:36 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : <nowiki>https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/</nowiki> ?
17:45:36 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : ::https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/:: ?


17:45:42 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : <nowiki>https://airtable.com/shrwrNScjiSUeyqH0</nowiki> Here’s an example of some of the data from the Tools and Tech Channel in mattermost
17:45:42 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : ::https://airtable.com/shrwrNScjiSUeyqH0:: Here’s an example of some of the data from the Tools and Tech Channel in mattermost


17:48:19 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Dear CICOLab Friends,
17:48:19 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Dear CICOLab Friends,
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Here is the link to the list sign-up form:
Here is the link to the list sign-up form:


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Stan Pokras
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17:49:31 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : Tracking Collaborative Dynamics
17:49:31 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : Tracking Collaborative Dynamics


<nowiki>https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/quest-tracking-collaboration-dynamics</nowiki>
::https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/quest-tracking-collaboration-dynamics::


17:49:43 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : Please contribute!  :)
17:49:43 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : Please contribute!  :)
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CICOLAB!!
CICOLAB!!


<nowiki>http://bit.ly/cicolab-discord</nowiki>
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18:22:47 From Astrid Meira to Everyone : Zawadi
18:22:47 From Astrid Meira to Everyone : Zawadi
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18:23:58 From James’s iPad to Everyone : Bedtime 4me!  but one closing comment.... i think there is a large looming philosophical, existential and epistemological problem which afflicts all change agent groups -  the notion of group identity itself. Each group aspires to attract users. This is such a fundamental assumption that underlies the modus operandi of almost all organizations. The most fundamental assumptions are usually the last to be questioned. Groups are started by a small number of individuals with a core vision. The people who end up in those groups are there through a combination of networking, alignment of values and serendipity. Presently, there are innumerable groups like this one trying to grow and develop triggers for system change. All these innumerable groups will fail to co-create deep coherence if we do not undergo a subtle but hugely important psychological shift. Instead of “joining us”, the thinking needs to shift to “join together.” In my view, Social weaving is the lynchpin. Nite!
18:23:58 From James’s iPad to Everyone : Bedtime 4me!  but one closing comment.... i think there is a large looming philosophical, existential and epistemological problem which afflicts all change agent groups -  the notion of group identity itself. Each group aspires to attract users. This is such a fundamental assumption that underlies the modus operandi of almost all organizations. The most fundamental assumptions are usually the last to be questioned. Groups are started by a small number of individuals with a core vision. The people who end up in those groups are there through a combination of networking, alignment of values and serendipity. Presently, there are innumerable groups like this one trying to grow and develop triggers for system change. All these innumerable groups will fail to co-create deep coherence if we do not undergo a subtle but hugely important psychological shift. Instead of “joining us”, the thinking needs to shift to “join together.” In my view, Social weaving is the lynchpin. Nite!


18:24:35 From Karin to Everyone : <nowiki>https://consilienceproject.org/education-crisis/</nowiki>
18:24:35 From Karin to Everyone : ::https://consilienceproject.org/education-crisis/::


18:24:43 From Stanley Pokras to Freed Schmitter(Direct Message) : Here is the link to the list sign-up form:
18:24:43 From Stanley Pokras to Freed Schmitter(Direct Message) : Here is the link to the list sign-up form:


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18:26:04 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : I wonder how we embody that philosophy
18:26:04 From Lauren Nignon-She/her to Everyone : I wonder how we embody that philosophy


18:27:44 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : Thanks for the link..
18:27:44 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : Thanks for the link..-->


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