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		<title>Stan at 22:28, 18 January 2021</title>
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		<title>Stan: Created page with &quot;00:20:02    Kat Haber:    I agree power seeks ever greater power.  00:20:08    Kurt Krueger:    Stan, How do we approach the FINANCIAL ELITE issue you just brought up...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;00:20:02    Kat Haber:    I agree power seeks ever greater power.  00:20:08    Kurt Krueger:    Stan, How do we approach the FINANCIAL ELITE issue you just brought up...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;00:20:02    Kat Haber:    I agree power seeks ever greater power.&lt;br /&gt;
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00:20:08    Kurt Krueger:    Stan, How do we approach the FINANCIAL ELITE issue you just brought up in creating peace…&lt;br /&gt;
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00:21:01    Leo Jacoby:    Is the spread of misinformation MLK&amp;#039;s dream? Kevin P. Chavous, opinion contributor 1/18/21 The Hill&lt;br /&gt;
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00:21:49    Shannon McArthur:    LEO!! Yay, you’re next!&lt;br /&gt;
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00:26:53    Kat Haber:    IS there a way of titling the recording?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:28:02    Kat Haber:    SCRIBES UNITE?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:28:21    Shannon McArthur:    Yay, Scribes - I call them Harpers…&lt;br /&gt;
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00:29:10    Leo Jacoby:    Liliane, thank you for you cheerful morning greetings, often the first in our chat record.&lt;br /&gt;
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00:30:27    Liliane Mavridara:    &amp;lt;3&lt;br /&gt;
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00:30:53    Leo Jacoby:    From the Chavous article: &amp;quot;The capacity to think critically helps us process and make sense of our ideas and those of others. It helps us better understand and appreciate the responsibilities of citizenship. Simply put, critical thinking is what&amp;#039;s needed for a democracy to thrive. It isn&amp;#039;t reserved for college graduates or those with a PhD. It doesn&amp;#039;t depend on your zip code or your bank account. &lt;br /&gt;
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Critical thinking is rooted in the quality of education you have access to or decide to access.&lt;br /&gt;
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That&amp;#039;s why educators, school officials, parents and community leaders must work together to build and support high-quality educational options that promote honest, respectful and fact-based dialogue among students of all ages.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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00:31:51    Kurt Krueger:    David Bohm and Krishnamurti dialogues on this societal conditions for the mind…&lt;br /&gt;
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00:36:08    Jen Forti:    What movement are you guys talking about?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:36:21    Kurt Krueger:    Move to AMEND&lt;br /&gt;
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00:37:26    Jen Forti:    Thank you Stanley&lt;br /&gt;
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00:43:28    Leo Jacoby:    www.movetoamend.org&lt;br /&gt;
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We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court&amp;#039;s ruling in Citizens United and other related cases, and move to amend our...&lt;br /&gt;
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00:43:37    Kurt Krueger:    Does anyone know how to connect with Michael Moore, the documentarian?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:45:45    Julie Wolf:    who?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:47:38    Kurt Krueger:    Columbine, Where to Invade Next, and so many others. He’s from Michigan.&lt;br /&gt;
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00:48:03    Kurt Krueger:    Boweling for COlumbine&lt;br /&gt;
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00:48:15    Liliane Mavridara:    Kurt, the folks you are involved with in LA will have a tip.&lt;br /&gt;
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00:52:08    Liliane Mavridara:    I need to make a comment&lt;br /&gt;
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00:54:30    Jen Forti:    Or Divided States&lt;br /&gt;
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00:56:34    Jen Forti:    Fascinating, thanks for that tip Lesley!&lt;br /&gt;
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00:56:45    Liliane Mavridara:    In yogic tradition, it has been so for aeons.&lt;br /&gt;
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00:58:54    Leo Jacoby:    We are all susceptible to group think and silo harvesting of information. I have responsibility not to pass on rumor, gossip, and unverified info. From my annual family newsletter: &amp;quot;Now, let us find vaccines for the viruses of misinformation and loveless ideologies that pit “us” vs. “them”.... let us listen and disagree amiably.... False speech has a long history; for a traditional perspective see: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;https://medium.com/@dcnajork/pope-francis-gossip-and-the-long-history-of-the-sins-of-the-tongue-9f00113eb85e&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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01:05:37    Liliane Mavridara:    Will be leaving at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
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01:06:17    Kurt Krueger:    Liliane, Enjoy the rest of your day. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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01:06:30    Liliane Mavridara:    Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
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01:06:44    Lesley Southwick-Trask:    Lovely seeing you Liliane - as always :)&lt;br /&gt;
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01:07:18    Liliane Mavridara:    Mushin?&lt;br /&gt;
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01:07:28    Liliane Mavridara:    with Mushin, I should say&lt;br /&gt;
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01:08:24    Jen Forti:    Thanks you guys for holding this space. I just wanted to listen today. See you soon &amp;lt;3&lt;br /&gt;
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01:08:27    Leo Jacoby:    Denial of election results or of the reality of covid-19 is moderate in its lasting effect in comparison with denial of systemic racism and environmental degradation and our complicity in both (since both are systemic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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01:08:50    Shannon McArthur:    Thanks for being here, Jen. Happy you are!&lt;br /&gt;
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01:09:40    Kurt Krueger:    Jen, CU tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
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01:10:06    Julie Wolf:    Jen song is appreciated&lt;br /&gt;
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01:10:19    Julie Wolf:    closing City Week,&lt;br /&gt;
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01:10:35    Jen Forti:    I’m going to learn We Shall Overcome today&lt;br /&gt;
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01:10:47    Shannon McArthur:    good one, Jen!&lt;br /&gt;
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01:11:28    Jen Forti:    Food For Thought….that’s a movement right there!&lt;br /&gt;
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01:11:53    Kat Haber:    I commend to you this 5 minute video on MLK’s UI have a dream speech: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/martin-luther-king-i-have-a-dream-video-washington-dc-lincoln-memorial-civil-rights-movement-a8286926.html&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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01:13:08    Leo Jacoby:    TO read today: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_Every_Voice_and_Sing&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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01:13:14    Jen Forti:    I Have a meeting at 11 will there be a way to see her presentation afterward?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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